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NCFC End Of Season Report

Gunvald Larsson

Gunvald Larsson

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So NCFC's dismal season ends with yet another very heavy loss ..... apart from the 5 wins it's generally been a regular diet of poor performances and defeat after defeat after defeat ..... the terrible start under Daniel Farke led to him getting the sack just as it looked as if things might be getting better ..... the arrival of Dean Smith had a brief honeymoon period before things then got worse ..... a couple of good performances were followed by a series of injuries which threw any positivity out of the window ..... more defeats, increasingly woeful performances and some ill-judged comments from the club's hierarchy caused the relationship between the club and the fans to deteriorate to a level not seen for many years at Carrow Road ..... the only word to describe the atmosphere at recent home games is toxic ..... the club's finances may be healthy but the playing side of the business was not good enough for the PL ..... the squad was ill-equipped to make any kind of positive impact in the PL and no attempt was made to improve the situation during the season ..... who's to blame is really anybody's guess ..... Webber is the man who is responsible for recruiting players but did he do this on his own, what input did Farke have, who went to watch these players before they were signed or borrowed, did we have a team of scouts scouring the world for players or did Webber and co simply watch videos and look at stats provided by agents etc ..... did the search for players include looking at PL players who were available and affordable ..... all of these questions have been asked before but never successfully answered ..... Dean Smith was appointed after weeks of media gossip but apparently Webber wanted him from the moment Smith was sacked by Villa, just 24 hours after Farke got the push ..... why the wait to go public and why the silence from within the club ..... Farke was unable to get the squad playing well and Smith has been similarly unsuccesful ..... so where does the problem lie ..... the answer has to be with the players ..... some of them have shown brief glimpses of form at times during the season, others have been terrible throughout, only two of them seem to have been up for the fight in every match they have played in ..... with that in mind here are my players ratings (out of 10) for the season, I have not included the loan players, players who have been released or those who have made only fleeting appearances.
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KRUL - 4 - time may be catching up with Tim, his season has included quite a few cock-ups which have led to goals, still a good keeper but he has not had a good season

GUNN - 5 - started nervously but improved as his confidence grew, made some good saves and his time may be about to arrive

AARONS - 5- a very erratic season for Max but when on form he still displayed all the positives he is known for, rumoured to be on his way out but I hope he stays

GIANNOULIS - 5 - another erratic performer but turned in his some good performances and made positive contributions in several matches, could do well in the Championship

BYRAM - 6 - one of the few positives during the season was Sam's return from injury and his continued improvement in form over the last few games, could also do well next season

GIBSON - 4 - not a good season for Ben, his performances have been punctuated by some real howlers and some very poor decision making, needs to really up his game if he wants to stay in the team

HANLEY - 8 - one of the 2 players in the team who appeared to give 100% in every match, his blocking, tackling and positional play have been really good and he has never let the team down, another one rumoured to have 'big' clubs sniffing around him but I hope he stays

DOWELL - 6 - given a decent run in the team over the past couple of months and has shown glimpses of what a good player he is, his link-up play has been sound and he had been one of the few players to show any kind of creativity, another who could do well in the Championship

PLACHETA - 4 - not really been able to make an impact in any of the matches he played in, ran around a lot but lost the ball far too often, I can't see him being anything other than a fringe player next season

SORENSON - 5 - overlooked by both managers throughout the season but when called upon he did not let the team down, deserves to be given a chance nest season

MCLEAN - 4 - the undroppable Kenny McLean, for me he showed absolutely no reason for his continued selection, poor passing and poor positional play seemed to be his major contributions, I expect he'll be 'undroppable' next season too

RASHICA - 4 - after a bright start he has faded into almost becoming invisible at times, his crossing has become worse and he seems reluctant to do any defensive work, he may be a fan favourite but he really has done nothing to warrant his presence in the team over the past few games, if he wanders around like that in the Championship some of the old pro's in that division will eat him alive

LEES-MELOU - 6 - a bit-part player for most of the season but when let loose as an attacking midfielder he started to show what a good player he is, good control and passing and does get stuck in when necessary, if given the chance he could be a major player next season

PUKKI - 8 - the other player who appeared to give 100% every time he played, 11 goals playing for the bottom club in the division is not too shabby, Teemu is a class act and will hopefully resume his destruction of Championship defences next season

SARGENT - 5 - really struggled to cope with the PL but slowly emerged as a player who never gives up and this strength really got the team out of some tricky situations on several occasions, he became more confident as the season went on and appeared set to really take off but was then floored by Covid and injury, when he returned he was not the same player, he appeared to have lost the energy that was a major part of his game, hopefully his mojo will return as he is another who could do well in the Championship

IDAH - 6 - another whose promising upturn in form was stopped in it's tracks by injury, appeared to be coming to terms with the PL and was a real handful for some good defences prior to his injury, also appeared to develop a good partnership with Pukki, another one for next season

TSZOLIS - 3 - for me Tszolis is the only real disaster among the new recruits at the start of the season, appeared totally out of his depth in the PL but I think the public bollocking Farke gave him over that penalty taking incident really shattered his confidence, no idea how he will perform next season as we have seen so little of him

ROWE - 5 - quick, intelligent and strong, a really promising start to his 1st team career and hopefully he will continue to develop into the player we all hope he will become

Well, that's my view on the lads from this season ..... you may agree or disagree as you please ..... as I said in an earlier post, this squad could be competitive in the Championship and with a couple of new signings, plus the returning loan-outs, a promotion push may be possible ..... I certainly don't expect a Farke style obliteration of the opposition but I am cautiously hopeful that next season will be a better proposition than this one has been ..... OTBC
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gerryinromania

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A nice report Mr Cars, one thing missing, you did not give smith a mark, surely he's not done his job, like some of the players
 
OldRobert

OldRobert

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My conclusion from your post Numan is keep Pukki, Lees Melou, Byram and Dowell. Bin the rest and sack Smith.
 
Gunvald Larsson

Gunvald Larsson

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My conclusion from your post Numan is keep Pukki, Lees Melou, Byram and Dowell. Bin the rest and sack Smith.
If seriously culling the squad and getting in replacements was possible I'd keep those you mention plus Hanley, Aarons, Idah, Rowe and Gunn. The rest I wouldn't be too bothered about. I am still undecided about Smith. I think he is a good coach but I don't think he 'gets' NCFC in the way that people like Farke, Bond, Walker and Saunders did.
 
morty

morty

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Great post. I shall respond tomorrow. Just home from pub.
 
morty

morty

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I think my hangover has subsided enough to tackle this now.

Agree pretty much with all the player ratings above, but you missed Omabamidele. And the reason I mention him is that I think he is a player that could have made a difference, and I also put Idah in the same category, I think both could have added something. It was bloody typical that just as Idah starts to look really good playing up front with Pukki, he gets injured. Hopefully both will be back next season, raring to go, as I really think they will be important. I don't buy into any doom and gloom that we will struggle next season, with those two back, and throw in Hugil, Mumba, Hernandez, Mcallum and possibly Sinani, then I think we will have a more than capable Championship squad. We definitely need 2, maybe 3 midfielders though.

This season though...

We basically can't afford Premier league football, we're shopping in Lidl for players, desperately hoping they work out. We can't afford proven Premier league quality, and to be honest, it is hard attracting players to a club that is odds on to be relegated. I think the game is up now regarding being able to be a self funded club, and be established in the Premier league, we have been absolutely left behind in that respect. I should imagine that Delia and Winnie will be having a very careful think about what happens next. That said, more money isn't always the answer, Everton have spent about 400 million over the last few seasons and were only just slightly less shite than we were.

Webber's fault? Nah, not for me, he is just the one people want to shout at just now. Last time up our squad was woefully thin, and we paid for it, this time I would say we improved the squad overall, but our first 11 was weaker, which was always going to be the case after losing Emi. We had about 50 million to spend on 6 or 7 squad players, as I say, shopping in Lidl desperately hoping some, or most of them work out. I am told that Farke was concentrating on a possession style of play, but it tuned out that basically every other team could do it better than we did, and we bought players that were going to play that style, so it wasn't probably ideal changing manager like we did (I said at the time I didn't think it would make any difference) and I should imagine that the players we bought maybe wouldn't have been Dean's choice.

Yet again it was dropping points to teams that were around us that killed us off. After that really hard run of matches at the start of the season, I think most of us saw Watford at home as a must win, and that the season started there, and of course, we lost 3-1. We looked so fragile after that, that game really knocked the stuffing out of us, and I remember being really disappointed and disheartened after it. And really, apart from a short spell when Smith took over, we just ambled along, like a dead man walking, ending up 14 points from safety.

Norwich 1 Watford 3
Burnley 0 Norwich 0
Everton 2 Norwich 0
Norwich 1 Leeds 2
Newcastle 1 Norwich 1
Norwich 1 Brentford 3
Leeds 2 Norwich 1

21 points there that we could have maybe had.

Regarding the club as a whole, I think the game is definitely up regarding us being self financed and established in the Premier league now, even with the best luck in the world, literally every single player we buy (from Lidl) would need to be an Emi or a Teemu. I was all for the self funding philosophy until last time we went up, but it really is dead and buried now.

Lastly a word on the fans, and interaction with the club, it has been a bit of an odd season in that respect. It was always going to be hard coming back from Covid, and I see a lot of people talking of a disconnect between them and the club, whilst losing a lot never helps I think a bridge was definitely burned by how some fans groups, mainly the proud canaries and the trust, behaved over the BK8 thing. There is definitely such a thing as listening to some fans just a bit too much...
 
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GJP

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Webber's fault? Nah, not for me,
Thing is, when is it his fault?

This season has been a grim affair and he has to come into the firing line at some point. Same as a manager or a player. Can they cut it at Prem level?

It looks like SW can't. We know in the Champs where we are one of the stronger outfits he can get us out of it but at this level he hasn't had the savvy. If we get promoted again do you give him a 3rd go?

Or is there someone else out there who sees a different picture and would find a formula to keep us in the Prem within our financial limits?





*Obviously it's not just SW, there's a team of people.
 
morty

morty

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We can't stay in the Prem under our financial limits, that's the point.
 
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GJP

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I do think though that we have seen SW can't make the difference at this level within our budgets. And given that this season has been a total mess (with lessons seemingly not learnt from previous Prem campaign) I think the club need to be open minded on someone with different ideas and strategies.
 
morty

morty

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I do think though that we have seen SW can't make the difference at this level within our budgets. And given that this season has been a total mess (with lessons seemingly not learnt from previous Prem campaign) I think the club need to be open minded on someone with different ideas and strategies.
What would those different ideas and strategies be then? Because under our financial limitations, I really don't see what we could do different. You mark my words, if Webber goes, Neil Adams will have his job.
 
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GJP

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What would those different ideas and strategies be then? Because under our financial limitations, I really don't see what we could do different. You mark my words, if Webber goes, Neil Adams will have his job.
For example, someone else might think "I don't want to sign highly paid loan players with a bad injury record".

Or "I don't want to sign players that have just been relegated".
 
morty

morty

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For example, someone else might think "I don't want to sign highly paid loan players with a bad injury record".

Or "I don't want to sign players that have just been relegated".
I think the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers" springs to mind. There is basically something wrong with virtually every single player we sign. Whether it is never played at this level, never played in this country, injury prone, or history of injury.

Also, how many players really want to sign for a team immediately odds on for relegation? It is also a known fact that people look at a map, and aren't keen on coming here. When is the last time we signed a player that another club genuinely wanted, but he chose us instead? Also I don't think we exactly pay the best either.
 
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DaveJ

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If seriously culling the squad and getting in replacements was possible I'd keep those you mention plus Hanley, Aarons, Idah, Rowe and Gunn. The rest I wouldn't be too bothered about. I am still undecided about Smith. I think he is a good coach but I don't think he 'gets' NCFC in the way that people like Farke, Bond, Walker and Saunders did.
As a villan - I think you are being a little unfair on Dean. I feel that he is one of the most genuine men in football - he has integrity and honesty, something all sadly lacking in todays game - let’s be fair Smith has put his reputation on the line by taking the job under very difficult circumstances - he could have waited and got the Leeds job ? But Dean being the football man that he is - chose to take the job in the hope that he could turn things around - I believe that he threw himself 100% into the post and feel confident that he will return you to the premier league - so long as he gets a realistic war chest and I for one really hope that this is the case
 
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GJP

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Has he taken the job in difficult circumstances?

We looked nailed on for relegation. He basically had a free hit. Keep us up and he's worked a miracle and if not we were already a lost cause and he should be given time to put his own stamp on it etc

It's a nicely paid job managing a pretty big football club... I don't think he's put himself out too much.

But that would go for anyone, not just DS.
 
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