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Norwich City vs QPR (away) Monday 2nd April.

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Din

Din

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??

"replaced by players of the standard of Watkins and Husband"

E.g. Selling Maddison and attempting to replace him for £1m, which is effectively what our transfer policy seems to be now.

Howson>Vrancic
Murphy>Watkins
Olsson>Husband

At the same time though CB:

Hanley > Bassong/Bennett
Zimmermann > Martin
Gunn > Ruddy
Reed > Mulumbu
Leitner (arguably) > Dorrans

Plus Maddison has stepped up and taken Naismith's place.

Also comparing Howson, Murphy and Olsson with Vrancic, Watkins and Husband isn't necessarily right. Vrancic is a good player anyway who I really like, but even so Trybull has been the main man who's taken over Howson's role this season. Hernandez has been bought in (albeit half-way through the season) as a Murphy replacement, and has shown early on that he's a very good player. And Lewis has stepped up and replaced Olsson, and I'm sure would've done at the start of the season had he not been injured. Yeah Lewis isn't quite as good, but he's still done very well there so far and is still so young.

I don't buy the fact that next season when the likes of Maddison, Gunn and Tettey leave we'll replace them with players of Watkins and Husband's ability. We haven't done at all as well as we wanted this season, but we haven't just signed loads of sh*t players. We've signed some very good ones as well. Why it hasn't worked is probably down to a combination of reasons, but Webber did say when he first came in that it'd take 3 or 4 transfer windows to get it right. I'm not saying that next season I expect us to be be right up there, or even around the play-off places. A lot of changes still need to be made. But I don't buy the fact that we're just going to free-fall towards League 1 as soon as some of our better players leave come the summer.
 
Canaryboy

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So...

Hanley>Bassong
Zimmermann>Bennett

And then three loan players that we have little prospect of signing on permanent deals and will need to replace in the summer, one of whom is injury prone and out for the season.

And that's before we consider the fact that Bennett and Ruddy will be picking up Championship winners medals in a few weeks.

Trybull, Zimmermann and Hanley are all good permanent signings. Hernandez looks like he has potential but has yet to prove the existence of any end product, Vrancic just about passes as alright.

But that's 3 out of 11 that we consider genuine Championship quality,2 that the jury are out on?

Watkins, Husband, Franke, Stiepermann, Raggett, Srberny are the other 6. Not going to write off Raggett yet, but I've seen enough to write off the rest.

If we leave Raggett out because its harsh.... its probably a 50/50 success rate. Its probably about what you'd expect from a skint team taking punts on cheap players, it doesn't suggest any sort of special ability from Webber and Farke to find hidden gems from all four corners of the world or some sort of impeding meteoric rise like Leicester City (who incidently spent £1m on Vardy and Mahrez cost £400k and Wes Morgan cost £1m),and its really nothing new here.

Worthington seemed to spend money excellently in the years prior to our promotion in 2003/04, he had a small budget but we didn't see many flops or deadwood under him. Hugely under rated manager (although Zema Abbey was sh*te).

Even Glenn Roeder left us with Hoolahan and Clingan, and technically Bryan Gunn signed Holt and the original Lord Nelson.
 
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Canaryboy

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Plus Hanley is effectively a £5m player considering we wrote off Franke after 4 games and then purchased Hanley to replace hm.

Franke just looked completely out of his depth.
 
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Plus Hanley is effectively a £5m player considering we wrote off Franke after 4 games and then purchased Hanley to replace hm.

Franke just looked completely out of his depth.

Ahem! It was always part of the plan to sign Hanley.

;-)
 
Canaryboy

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Ahem! It was always part of the plan to sign Hanley.

;-)

Stone and Webber have contradicted each other on that (can't be bothered to dig out proof).

Basically we spent a years worth of academy funding on Hanley after realising that Franke is sh*t and then had to ask the fans to help fund the academy.

Although I really like Hanley, so as long as he stays I won't hold that one against them. Thanks to Franke for being shit.

I just don't think Farke and Webber really know what they are doing anymore. Feels like they are both responsible for terrible signings, yet we can't ever be 100% sure which signing is here because of who. Husband is clearly a Webber signing and Franke a Farke signing.

But we appear to be signing players now that Farke doesn't think are ready to play Championship football..... both Raggatt and Edwards at the minute. Its bizarre.

I originally liked the idea of a "head coach", now I'm going right off the idea. It means there is no accountability for certain decisions.

Do we blame Farke or Webber for Marley Watkins? Because either Webber has signed a player that is completely unsuitable for Farke's system or Farke has signed a player who is completely unsuitable for his own system, and I'm not sure which is the most worrying.

Then we sign Srberny and that's when I realised that they actually haven't got a fucking clue. Because I really thought we wanted a false nine, and that's why we shipped out Jerome. Then we go and sign a pound shop Ricky Van Wolfswinkel. Its got me stumped to be honest, I don't understand the plan anymore.

Raggatt is an old fashioned English centre half.... like a less good version of Tony Adams. I've seen him play a few times. He's the complete opposite to what Farke wants.... which is somebody who can get on the ball and pass it along the back four, like a Rio Ferdinand?

And what is Stiepermann? 9 months on and I'm none the wiser. Because he was supposed to be an attacking midfielder when he arrived but when he's in the final third with the ball he looks like a centre back out of his comfort zone.

I don't know if Webber is signing these players and lumbering Farke with them because he doesn't understand what Farke is trying to achieve or whether Farke doesn't really know what the fuck he is doing, but I now believe that one of those two things is true.

I actually hope that Farke is the clueless one.... because that would be the easier problem to fix. If Webber is the clueless one then we're fucked.
 
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Din

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So...

Hanley>Bassong
Zimmermann>Bennett

And then three loan players that we have little prospect of signing on permanent deals and will need to replace in the summer, one of whom is injury prone and out for the season.

And that's before we consider the fact that Bennett and Ruddy will be picking up Championship winners medals in a few weeks.

Trybull, Zimmermann and Hanley are all good permanent signings. Hernandez looks like he has potential but has yet to prove the existence of any end product, Vrancic just about passes as alright.

But that's 3 out of 11 that we consider genuine Championship quality,2 that the jury are out on?

Watkins, Husband, Franke, Stiepermann, Raggett, Srberny are the other 6. Not going to write off Raggett yet, but I've seen enough to write off the rest.

If we leave Raggett out because its harsh.... its probably a 50/50 success rate. Its probably about what you'd expect from a skint team taking punts on cheap players, it doesn't suggest any sort of special ability from Webber and Farke to find hidden gems from all four corners of the world or some sort of impeding meteoric rise like Leicester City (who incidently spent £1m on Vardy and Mahrez cost £400k and Wes Morgan cost £1m),and its really nothing new here.

Worthington seemed to spend money excellently in the years prior to our promotion in 2003/04, he had a small budget but we didn't see many flops or deadwood under him. Hugely under rated manager (although Zema Abbey was sh*te).

Even Glenn Roeder left us with Hoolahan and Clingan, and technically Bryan Gunn signed Holt and the original Lord Nelson.

Yeah Gunn, Reed and Leitner will probably not be here next season, but the point is we've made a great use of the loan market, as a club in our position needs to do. We will no doubt bring in 3 or 4 players on loan next year, so why can't we bring in 3 just as good as Gunn, Reed and Leitner again? We've proven we can do it this season.

Trybull, Hanley and Zimmermann all great. The early signs with Hernandez is that he's definitely Championship quality but ok, I understand why you'd be reluctant to label him that just yet seeing as he's only been here since the end of January. I don't know how you can say though that the jury is still out on Vrancic, and all he does is pass the ball alright. Genuinely not trying to be condescending but have you seen him play since the turn of the year? He's been superb practically every time he's played and could be a very big player for us next year. There's no doubt he's Championship quality.

Watkins and Husband, fine, they're sh*t. Even Franke I understand writing him off. I really don't understand though how you can write off Srbeny or Stiepermann. Stiepermann did a good job filling in at left back earlier in the season, and was our first choice left back when we went through that run that took us into the play-offs earlier in the season. And that's far from his natural position. Srbeny has made 4 starts for the club, and has looked better every time. Yeah he's not looking on the level he needs to be yet but writing him off after 4 games is ridiculous.

Plus we've had young players really step up to the plate this season. Maddison is our best player yet wasn't even involved last year and no-one could've foreseen him being quite as good as he is. Him and Lewis have come into the first team and more than established their place. Why can't the likes of Ben Godfrey and Remi Matthews, who are expected to be part of the first team next season, do the same? I'm not saying they'll have an impact on Maddison levels, but there's certainly no reason why they can't be big players for us next year.
 
Canaryboy

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RE: Vrancic.... I've caught a few of his 7 league starts in 2018, yes.

(That's how many games he's started in 2018, lynchpin!).

He has improved on the player that we saw at the start of the season, which is good because that player looked League One standard and had no turn of pace whatsoever, didn't look like he understood any of his team mates and was afraid to get on the ball.

Heard he had an excellent game against a shambolic Reading side where he scored his first league goal.

1 goal and 2 assists in 30 appearances though, and named as a substitute more often than he has started in 2018.... so of course the jury is still out.

Looks massively inferior to players like Dorrans in my eyes. Although I do believe that Dorrans was massively under rated by most Norwich fans.

The only place I can really see Vrancic potentially becoming really important is at the base of the midfield in a Carrick type playmaker role, keeping possession and mixing up the short and long range passes like David Fox. Any player expected to break into the final third needs to be creating chances and scoring goals. Can Vrancic do that on the regular?
 
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Even Franke I understand writing him off.

I really don't understand though how you can write off Srbeny


So I'm allowed to write off Franke after precisely 8 appearances but writing off Srbeny after 8 appearances is ridiculous?

or Stiepermann. Stiepermann did a good job filling in at left back earlier in the season, and was our first choice left back when we went through that run that too


Stiepermann did alright defensively at left back but fans got a bit over excited because we were comparing him with Husband who was having a nightmare and literally being targeted by opposition players. But what's his role now? Third choice left back? With 2 years left on his contract?

I mean, if we could find a taker for Husband and then kept Stiepermann as our backup left back then that would suit me, but I'm pretty sure Stiepermann was brought in to play in midfield (where he has played for his entire career) and yet he looked completely out of his depth in midfield.

Even the club website announced his signing as... "Norwich City have made VfL Bochum midfielder Marco Stiepermann their ninth first team signing of the summer transfer window".

I mean perhaps he can be third choice left back and second in reserve defensive midfielder or something. Really hope he isn't on serious money though, because he is one who actually came from one of the more serious Bundesliga 2 outfits.

And that's far from his natural position.


What is his natural position then? Looked clueless getting forward both when coming on as a sub out wide or when getting forward as a left back. More clumsy then Whittaker. I mean alright, perhaps he can do a job as an occasional utility player.


Plus we've had young players really step up to the plate this season. Maddison is our best player yet wasn't even involved last year and no-one could've foreseen him being quite as good as he is.


People were crying out for Maddison last season? Credit to Farke for throwing him in at the deep end in centre midfielder and making him work on his stamina and earn his number 10 shirt. But he was a player who the national media claimed several top 6 sides wanted before we spent £3m on him, not some big unknown. And this is about our transfer business under Webber and Farke, not about players they were fortunate to inherit. Lambert was fortunate to inherit Holt and Hoolahan, which I did say above, even if he deserves some credit for getting them ticking.

Why can't the likes of Ben Godfrey and Remi Matthews, who are expected to be part of the first team next season, do the same?

I'm not saying they can't, but neither of them are Webber/Farke signings either? Off topic? Godfrey and Maddison are BOTH signings from the McNally/Alex Neil era, and Webber seems happy for people to bash that regime for not building a new whatever at Colney and for the Jarvis/Naismith signings, but isn't exactly going to give that regime credit when his regime is bailed out by a £25m cheque for Maddison is he... off of the back of a near £5m investment in young lower league midfield talent (Godfrey £1m, Maddison £3m, Thompson £700k).

If we miraculously kept Maddison for next season and Thompson made a full recovery it wouldn't be entirely outside the realms of possibility that a midfield three of Godfrey-Thompson-Maddison would become our first choice midfield, and only Trybull has the quality to disrupt that.

It was pretty clear that we only signed Trybull after Thompson was crocked.

So can we claim that McNally had no foresight? Looks like we were building our new spine years ago.

When we receive £25m for Maddison that £22m profit is enough to run an academy for a decade.And we've still got the possibility of Godfrey an Thompson establishing themselves and becoming valuable players too.

That's a huge ROI on that £5m in a few years. Is our £5m academy bond going to yield a similar ROI for the club, or was McNally actually - perhaps correctly - accepting that there weren't many gems to unearth in our catchment area and that we'd need to be buying up talent at 16/17/18.

When our academy was at its most productive most of the stars were coming out of a satellite academy near Bristol which trained players until they were 16, at which point they'd move to Norwich. Eadie, Cureton, Akinbiyi, Shore (huge talent who got crocked when medical science was still lagging),Llewellyn, Bellamy.... all came out of that satellite academy. That was the last time our academy was highly productive.

Delia closed it to save money I think. Southampton established one in that region and then brought through Gareth Bale.

Webber is going to achieve by far the biggest fee we've ever received for any player in our history, thanks to the foresight of the McNally regime who went out and invested some serious money in a few lower league talents.

Just like Delia's first regime benefitted from Robert Chase's investment somewhere near Bristol, when they inherited and sold Bellamy and Eadie.

And we're signing Adam Phillips from the dole queue who can't get in the Cambridge United team and making a big deal out of it in the press because he once got named in a 35 man squad by Brendan Rodgers.

Lets cut through all the bullshit and stay on topic.... which is transfer business by Webber/Farke, which seems to be very hit and miss at the best.

The Maddison fee is probably our saving grace, and that's a huge slice of good fortune for Webber and Stone irrespective of whether Farke deserves a degree of credit for his development. Lets not pretend otherwise.

I just hope that McNally's NDA is one with a time expiry so we can get a book out of him at some point, he must be chomping at the bit to back his corner.
 
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The new regime has signed some crap but they have signed some good players too.

Biggest problem for me is playing style and tactics. Don't see enough to suggest we get any better next season. Think it's more likely to get worse.
 
Fenway Frank

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We're going to lose our best player?
Fair point but none of us know who will come in with the money we spend. I know you could say we could waste the money, but we could possibly spend it well ( Leitner ? ). At the moment none of us know, it’s all part of the roller coaster ride supporting our club.
 
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It's not just that though, players get disillusioned. Playing in a team that doesn't score goals, sliding down the table, best/better players leaving. All that hard training starts to get questioned. Why run so many miles if we can't score and enjoy our football?

And you become less attractive to new players. Certainly to more proven players amyway.

It's the way football is.
 
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It's not just that though, players get disillusioned. Playing in a team that doesn't score goals, sliding down the table, best/better players leaving. All that hard training starts to get questioned. Why run so many miles if we can't score and enjoy our football?

And you become less attractive to new players. Certainly to more proven players amyway.

It's the way football is.

That's fair. Whilst we're a work in progress it's still important that players and fans alike don't get disillusioned. You could understand the players questioning the additional workload (particularly the better one's) if the team aren't benefitting from it.
 
Fenway Frank

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I’ve just been told I’ve got to be at work until 3 Saturday so that will be 3 points against Villa then and everyone can relax just a little :)
 
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RE: Vrancic.... I've caught a few of his 7 league starts in 2018, yes.

He has improved on the player that we saw at the start of the season, which is good because that player looked League One standard and had no turn of pace whatsoever, didn't look like he understood any of his team mates and was afraid to get on the ball.

1 goal and 2 assists in 30 appearances though, and named as a substitute more often than he has started in 2018.... so of course the jury is still out.

The only place I can really see Vrancic potentially becoming really important is at the base of the midfield in a Carrick type playmaker role, keeping possession and mixing up the short and long range passes like David Fox. Any player expected to break into the final third needs to be creating chances and scoring goals. Can Vrancic do that on the regular?

But that's what Vrancic has been doing recently, playing in a deep-lying role and picking off the passes. There hasn't been any pressure on him to break into the final 3rd, so it doesn't really matter whether he can do that regularly.

And part of the reason he hasn't been playing as much is because we bought in Leitner in January who is clearly a class above. Since neither Leitner or Vrancic are holding midfielders in the style of Tettey, Trybull or even Reed, if you play one then you have to leave out the other. Vrancic has been unfortunate in that respect but when he's got his opportunity in recent weeks he's more than taken it to the point where I have no doubt that he is of Championship quality.

And yeah he doesn't have much in the way of goals or assists. But it's pretty well-renowned how poor we are in the final 3rd, and have no-one to put the ball in the net apart from Maddison, so don't think that's really a fair reflection, especially considering it took him a while to get used to the league.

So I'm allowed to write off Franke after precisely 8 appearances but writing off Srbeny after 8 appearances is ridiculous?

Stiepermann did alright defensively at left back but fans got a bit over excited because we were comparing him with Husband who was having a nightmare and literally being targeted by opposition players. But what's his role now? Third choice left back? With 2 years left on his contract?

I mean, if we could find a taker for Husband and then kept Stiepermann as our backup left back then that would suit me, but I'm pretty sure Stiepermann was brought in to play in midfield (where he has played for his entire career) and yet he looked completely out of his depth in midfield.

What is his natural position then? Looked clueless getting forward both when coming on as a sub out wide or when getting forward as a left back. More clumsy then Whittaker. I mean alright, perhaps he can do a job as an occasional utility player.

People were crying out for Maddison last season? Credit to Farke for throwing him in at the deep end in centre midfielder and making him work on his stamina and earn his number 10 shirt. But he was a player who the national media claimed several top 6 sides wanted before we spent £3m on him, not some big unknown. And this is about our transfer business under Webber and Farke, not about players they were fortunate to inherit. Lambert was fortunate to inherit Holt and Hoolahan, which I did say above, even if he deserves some credit for getting them ticking.

I'm not saying they can't, but neither of them are Webber/Farke signings either? Off topic? Godfrey and Maddison are BOTH signings from the McNally/Alex Neil era, and Webber seems happy for people to bash that regime for not building a new whatever at Colney and for the Jarvis/Naismith signings, but isn't exactly going to give that regime credit when his regime is bailed out by a £25m cheque for Maddison is he... off of the back of a near £5m investment in young lower league midfield talent (Godfrey £1m, Maddison £3m, Thompson £700k).

If we miraculously kept Maddison for next season and Thompson made a full recovery it wouldn't be entirely outside the realms of possibility that a midfield three of Godfrey-Thompson-Maddison would become our first choice midfield, and only Trybull has the quality to disrupt that.

So can we claim that McNally had no foresight? Looks like we were building our new spine years ago.

When we receive £25m for Maddison that £22m profit is enough to run an academy for a decade.And we've still got the possibility of Godfrey an Thompson establishing themselves and becoming valuable players too.

Webber is going to achieve by far the biggest fee we've ever received for any player in our history, thanks to the foresight of the McNally regime who went out and invested some serious money in a few lower league talents.

We're signing Adam Phillips from the dole queue who can't get in the Cambridge United team and making a big deal out of it in the press because he once got named in a 35 man squad by Brendan Rodgers.

Lets cut through all the bullshit and stay on topic.... which is transfer business by Webber/Farke, which seems to be very hit and miss at the best.

The Maddison fee is probably our saving grace, and that's a huge slice of good fortune for Webber and Stone irrespective of whether Farke deserves a degree of credit for his development. Lets not pretend otherwise.

Franke came in, had some of a pre-season with us, played 90 minutes at centre back in every game he played and looked way out of his depth. I personally still haven't written him off absolutely, I'm still hoping he can come in next season and have a role. But Srbeny's come in half-way through the season, started 4 games and looked better each time he's played. Plus he's playing in the loan striker role which would be tough for any striker. I'm not saying he's nailed on to be a success by any means but it's completely different circumstances to Franke, which is why I can understand you writing him off but I don't think it's right to do so with Srbeny.

How can you say Stiepermann's looked completely out of his depth when played in midfield? He's started 2 games there and come on as a sub in 2 more, often randomly in the middle of a spell when he's been playing left back for a while. I certainly don't remember watching those games and thinking 'Wow this guy clearly can't play midfield'. His natural position is through the middle, an area where we haven't seen him yet. With that in mind I don't see how you can write him off? Particularly as he did a pretty decent job out of position.

And yeah obviously the youth players in and around our squad now are McNally/Neil signings. We won't know how good the young players we have signed under Webber/Farke are for a couple of seasons yet, because they were bought in for the long term. Jacob Murphy struggled on loan at more than one club before he caught a break, as has Remi Matthews before he started to impress at Plymouth this season, and is now expected to be our number 1 next season. With that in mind it seems a bit odd that you're seemingly slating the signing of Adam Phillips just because he's struggling out on loan. Under Neil/McNally we also bought in young players like Conor McGrandles, Ebou Adams and two guys called McCracken and Uade as well as promoting Jamar Loza. The only one who's still on our books is Adams, who will almost certainly be off when his contract expires in the summer, and who knows where the rest of them are. It's not like the McNally regime was one that produced gem after gem. The majority of youth players clubs bring in probably aren't going to make it, but the fact is we've bought in quite a few in the 9 months or so Farke's been here, and Farke likes to pride himself on bringing through young talent, so with that in mind you would hope in the next couple of years we begin to see the fruits of that.

Another point though is that I don't think I'd even heard of Jamal Lewis before this pre-season, yet Farke clearly identified him as someone who is capable of being our 1st choice left back, and he's proving that now. There could be someone else like that next season, who comes completely out of the left-field from our academy and makes a big impact in the first team.

I agree to be fair to an extent that it is a bit rich that Webber likes to smash the previous regime, when the sale of Jacob Murphy, the inevitable sale of Maddison, with Josh Murphy and Jamal Lewis in the first team, and Ben Godfrey and Remi Matthews on the fringes of it, have helped us out massively. I don't think Webber should bash it (on the youth side at least) as much as he does, but at the same time I don't really know how Maddison being sold for £25m, giving us a huge helping hand financially highlights the ineptitude of Webber and Farke just because he wasn't signed by them. Farke and Webber have been here less than a year, obviously there's going to be a lot of players left over from the previous regime. Yes I bet they're delighted with the fact that one of them is someone who will go for a lot of money, but at the same time Maddison has admitted that Farke has played a huge part in his development. I personally wouldn't describe it as Webber being 'bailed out' by the £25m Maddison fee.

If you think the business done by Webber and Farke is hit and miss then fine, a lot of fans would agree with you. I personally think with the exception of Watkins and Husband, who we spent next to no money on, and potentially Franke, our business overall has been good. As I said I don't expect us to suddenly be up there next season, but what I do expect is to see progress, whether that be a clearly implementation of a certain way of playing or whether we do actually finish a fair way higher up the league. I certainly don't believe based on what we've seen so far that we'll continue to slide down the league as you're suggesting.
 
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Jamal Lewis was drafted into training with the first team squad frequently last season under Alex Neil and had won 3 U19 international caps during his reign so I don't think he went entirely unnoticed before Farke arrived. Also, these things are obviously subjective as Alex Neil rated Glenn Middleton but we've let him go on a free to Rangers, was named on the bench at least once last season under Alex Neil.

McGrandles suffered a double leg break so obviously that was going to affect his development.

And Jamar Loza is a 1 in 3 striker for Norwich in the league :p

"I certainly don't believe based on what we've seen so far that we'll continue to slide down the league as you're suggesting"

Can't see where I've suggested that, I actually said we're going to need to invest heavily in attacking players from the Maddison proceeds if we're going to have any chance of challenging at the other end of the table. Where have I said that?

Although as it happens, I wouldn't rule out us being at the wrong end of the table if we get the summer transfer window wrong. We can't be too stingy with reinvesting the Maddison proceeds, we're going to need to spend some real money on one or two attacking midfielders and a striker or two.
 
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Couple things about the Maddison money:

1 - Ruben Neves cost £15m ish and is actually slightly younger than Maddison. The jump to £25m for Maddison seems unrealistic.

2 - Other clubs will adjust their prices for players knowing we have got a wedge for Maddison in the bank or on its way.
 
Fenway Frank

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Midfield is the last place I would want to strengthen at the moment, we definitely need another striker though
 
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Midfield is the last place I would want to strengthen at the moment, we definitely need another striker though

With Hoolahan and Maddison likely off.... we need a couple of attacking midfielders?

Or one plus Cantwell if he's ready.

Or we could be stuck with Naismith and have little choice but to use him.
 
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