Canaries trust meeting with Steve Stone.

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At our August board meeting we were delighted to be joined by Steve Stone and Joe Ferrari and were able to discuss a wide range of issues with them. What follows is a synopsis of the main points.THE TRUST ASKED HOW CLOSE STEVE FELT WE WERE TO WHERE WE EXPECTED TO BE AT THE CLOSE OF THE TRANSFER WINDOWSteve Stone (SS): The position changed after the Millwall game - there were some frank discussions and it was agreed that the team needed an experienced Championship centre back, but Club had very little funding left to do the deal.If NCFC stay in the Championship players on large wages will have to go - but the Newcastle deal for Grant Hanley was agreed because of the player’s age and would not have been an option if he was 30. The Club, based on past experiences, are wary of last day panic buying.THE TRUST ASKED ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY OF NCFCSS: This is one of the advantages of a young squad which will have significant value if players need to be sold next summer. At present there is no facility with Barclays Bank but an overdraft facility was secured against parachute payments. It is important that fans understand that money coming into the Club is not disappearing, but is all being used. For example, between £4M and £5M has been used on settlements for departing staff.TRUST: WE UNDERSTAND THAT 12 CHAMPIONSHIP CLUBS HAVE MADE RECIPROCAL TICKETING ARRANGEMENTS. WHAT’S NCFC’S STANCE ON THIS?SS: The Club have not given the issue any recent consideration for the long-argued reason that the Club can sell out whatever the size of the visiting allocation.CURRENT GROUND DEVELOPMENT PLANSSS: There are no plans to consider expansion until such time as the Club have proved capable of long term PL football. The “old” cantilever plan for building a tier immediately above the City Stand had no facility for “Corporate Accommodation” and therefore new plans (£30M-£40M) would need to be considered.THE TRUST NOTED THAT AWAY FANS AT FULHAM WHO BOUGHT TICKETS IN THE NEUTRAL SECTION DID NOT RECEIVE POINTS. IS THERE ARE WAY AROUND THIS?SS: There had been historical “problems” with Fulham regarding ticketing allowance for a recent match at Carrow Rd. and Fulham had responded by restricting the away allocation for City’s visit on the first day of the Season. The Club would investigate if there was any way the information on City supporters in the Neutral Section could be gathered and applied to their points accrual.ASSET OF COMMUNITY VALUE STATUS FOR CARROW ROADThe Trust explained their continued interest in this and described their previous discussions with David McNally who had a negative attitude to the idea.SS explained his background in the Licensing Trade had made him familiar with the concept as many Pubs had taken this route and he was aware that Clubs the size of Liverpool and Man Utd had taken this route. He suggested we re-submit our request.SAFE STANDINGSS said following a recent change of heart among clubs, including Liverpool, regarding Safe Standing he has been looking at the “rules” and the “art of the possible” including the cost of conversion to one to one ratio and to ticket pricing. He recognises that some displacement of ST holders might be difficult but in terms of atmosphere he thinks it could be a good thing.THE TRUST QUERIED WHAT IS HAPPENING TO FANS GROUP MEETINGS FOLLOWING THE DEPARTURE OF ED GUICHARD.SS noted that as EG has moved on, the next meeting will be with Joe Ferrari and Gemma Gifford. SS was most impressed with the Barclay End Norwich’s work with the Club and with the organised “March to the Ground” and the improvement in atmosphere. Outstanding issues regarding banners and flag poles will hopefully cleared at next Mondays meeting.There have been changes in the marketing department and the communications team will be dealing with fan engagement moving forward.SUPPORTER LIAISON OFFICER SS confirmed that Stephen Graham was still the Clubs SLO although his main responsibility remains ticketing. SS said that he was aware of differing SLO responsibilities between Clubs and was willing to re-assess the role of the NCFC SLO.SECURITY POLICY ON BAGSTrust asked if there was a format for bag searches.SS: There is no formal ratio for bag searches and the new Security Staff have the flexibility to balance length of queues to number of bags searched on the basis that a queue can become a target as much as a stadium. In response to some fan queries regarding long-distance fans arriving with overnight bags SS felt there should be no need to bring them to the ground.CANARIES FOR EQUALITYSS: In response to the escalation of the campaign, Gemma Gifford will be in touch with Proud Canaries regarding a piece being written by one of their members. The Club had recently dealt firmly with fan abuse issues and were happy to keep the reporting of homophobic, racist and disability chanting under review. John Leggett, Head of Safety and Operations Team will communicate with Di Cunningham.SHARE PURCHASESThe Trust Chairman asked what would be the Club’s attitude to a more “aggressive” approach by the Trust to purchase shares.SS: The Club would have no problem. The Club was impressed by the Trust’s recent share purchases. In response to a question regarding the increasing delay between the Club Solicitor agreeing the paperwork, and hence payment to the vendor, and the production of a new share certificate, SS said that all share transfers have to go to NCFC Board meetings and he will look into the current delays.SPONSORSHIP OF UN-SPONSORED YOUNGER PLAYERSThe Trust proposed that, rather than have a number of players un-sponsored after a couple of months of the season, they could be nominally sponsored by the different fan groups.SS: The proposal is a novel one and could be adopted if groups were willing to pay a small fee that could go to CSF. It will be considered.INTER-FAN GROUP 6-A-SIDE TOURNAMENTThe Trust asked if this was something the Club could support as they had done so in the past. It could be held at Carrow Park and a trophy awarded to the winners.Joe Ferrari (JF): The idea could be linked to the Visiting Fans weekend and could also be used as a CSF fundraiser.TRUST STAND AT BRISTOL CITY GAMESS confirmed that this could go ahead at the back of the Barclay Stand and include the co-opted fan groups and their banners etc.CHRISTMAS FOODBANKS COLLECTIONThe Trust explained that it would like to follow the lead of other fan groups and organise a collection at pre-Christmas games in conjunction with one of the local organisations.SS accepted the idea in principle that collecting at an event where 22000 + people gather was a good idea, but the Club could not be involved with handling procedures. SS suggested the Trust discussed it with one of the local Foodbanks and then get back to the Club.PRE-SEASON TICKETING ARRANGEMENTNev Townsend said feedback from fans who had travelled to Germany were disappointed by the lack of publicity and information about ticketing and local facilities.JF: The Club always provides information for fans travelling to away matches in the League and Cup, but the fluidity involved in overseas pre-season matches would make it difficult to provide the same information. The Club has to be mindful it could be culpable if bad information is given out.
 
Fenway Frank

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ASSET OF COMMUNITY VALUE STATUS FOR CARROW ROAD

What is this in plain English ? 
 
Canaryboy

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Good to hear that we've spent the entire Howson transfer fee on paying off staff  :rolleyes:

Why is it that normal folk get a maximum of 12 weeks redundancy pay these days but football is full of stuffed brown envelopes, can't be a lack of qualified football coaches, physio's and kit men surely. 

How have we blown through £4m to £5m on paying off staff? Surely this must include Tony Andreu, but that can surely only be about half a million? 

Or have we done ourselves out of money due to "loyalty bonuses" which players are entitled to as long as they don't submit a formal transfer request? Dorrans, McGrandles, Rudd, etc all owed their loyalty bonuses paid in full. That may be it. Makes you wonder whether we actually saw any cash at all from Rangers for Dorrans in that case, by the time Dorrans and his agent have been paid off. 
 
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hogesar

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Disappointed that it sounds like not getting promoted this season and we would be looking to sell yet more players - and young talent at that. Our team could look pretty talentless in a years time 
 
Fenway Frank

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Canaryboy, I would think that Ricky Martin and all the other coaches, sports science guys were all paid off too
 
hogesar

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I suppose in some ways a little concerning that it took the Millwall defeat for the guys to think an experienced CB was required. Youd like to think analysing the other games plus the training etc would make that clear to professionals.
 
Canaryboy

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I suppose in some ways a little concerning that it took the Millwall defeat for the guys to think an experienced CB was required. Youd like to think analysing the other games plus the training etc would make that clear to professionals.
I was literally just thinking similar, that its a bit odd that signing a centre back was only a consideration at that point when we only had 4 centre backs for 3 positions... clearly not a sufficient amount of depth (with Raggatt on loan until January).

Unless he meant that we were pursuing a cheaper foreign target and then decided to play it safe with a domestic player.

I'd still love to know how we've managed to spend £4m to £5m on compensation to staff  :eek:  Would make more sense I suppose if Alex Neil was technically on gardening leave until the summer, so delayed his pay off, so we're counting his alleged £2m in that total? 
 
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Fenway Frank

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It's just dawned on me, training doesn't involve going outside onto the pitches, they play table football instead. This also explains the new formations.
 
hogesar

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Would explain everything to be fair, Think you've cracked it!
 
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I suppose in some ways a little concerning that it took the Millwall defeat for the guys to think an experienced CB was required. Youd like to think analysing the other games plus the training etc would make that clear to professionals.
A lot concerning really.

Yes it's good they have acted on it now but everyone, absolutely everyone, knew that defence needed sorting and they let the season start without any sign of improvement.

And, I know people won't like this, that extended contract for Russell did not bode well.
 

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