Celebrity scumbags

[morty]

Hot on the heels of Mr Brand, next up is David Walliams.

Turns out he is a Labour party member, and they have revoked his membership! He has also been dropped by his agent, his publisher, and the BBC. Little Britain has been removed from iplayer.

All before anything has actually come out from the ITV / Guardian investigation. He is accused of using his fame to exploit women and a girl of 15.

 

[morty]

If you ever wondered just how Russel Brand got how he is, then this is an incredible watch, and very revealing as to just why he grew up to be a scumbag.

Here is a young Brand talking to his dad about the trip they went on together to Thailand, and all the prostitutes they went with.

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Russel Brand and his Dad in 2002.

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[AyrshireBob]

Problem seems to be that although they are often reported for their actions with often young girls, nothing appears to happen for years or even if at all.
They often say it was years ago and i am reformed now, so me asks " so you admit it then " but no i didn't do it say them. Must admit i and my good lady have never liked either of the two in the news recently or I might add Saville / Glitter and others too be honest, but what the heck you Ayrshirebob you are cannon fodder and look at me me me me !!
My good lady says bring back hanging

 

[morty]

Problem seems to be that although they are often reported for their actions with often young girls, nothing appears to happen for years or even if at all.
They often say it was years ago and i am reformed now, so me asks " so you admit it then " but no i didn't do it say them. Must admit i and my good lady have never liked either of the two in the news recently or I might add Saville / Glitter and others too be honest, but what the heck you Ayrshirebob you are cannon fodder and look at me me me me !!
My good lady says bring back hanging

Society, and certain people seem to be able to turn a blind eye to it all if it suits them to do so. I particularly remember a line from a documentary about Jimmy Saville, where someone said "Oh yeah, we all knew that Jimmy liked them young". In the case of Russel Brand, the media absolutely applauded his bad boy image.

 

[AmericanCanary]

Tbh and disgusting to think about, probably way more celebrities and people in power that are doing similar things but will probably never get into trouble for it. Even more amazing to me is the people defending Brand and/or saying its all a conspiracy to shut him up with how he has presented himself politically of late, etc.

Piss off, these are more than likely the same people who are flat earthers, 9/11 deniers, etc.

 

[morty]

Tbh and disgusting to think about, probably way more celebrities and people in power that are doing similar things but will probably never get into trouble for it. Even more amazing to me is the people defending Brand and/or saying its all a conspiracy to shut him up with how he has presented himself politically of late, etc.

Piss off, these are more than likely the same people who are flat earthers, 9/11 deniers, etc.

Whilst there is something in the politics angle that goes no way towards excusing his behaviour. The labour party absolutely loved him when his politics were left, and it was only after he drifted right that Channel 4 decided to do that documentary about him. That is not a defence of him, but it is definitely something that happened, and makes you wonder that if he hadn't stuck his head above the parapet, if that documentary would have even been comissioned.

But the main thing is that he has committed a criminal act, and been found guilty, how he got there matters not.

 

[Shyster]

My biggest concern about all this is the two-tier judicial system that is most certainly politically charged these days.

 

[morty]

My biggest concern about all this is the two-tier judicial system that is most certainly politically charged these days.

Definitely agree. Every single person, regardless of who they are, should be equal in the eyes of the law.

 

[Shyster]

But the main thing is that he has committed a criminal act, and been found guilty, how he got there matters not.

I disagree, Morty, his sentencing is way harsh based on the hearsay evidence - No proof, just an accusation.

This means the legal system can prosecute and imprison any one of us without forensic evidence, DNA, CCTV or third party witnesses

 

[morty]

I disagree, Morty, his sentencing is way harsh based on the hearsay evidence - No proof, just an accusation.

This means the legal system can prosecute and imprison any one of us without forensic evidence, DNA, CCTV or third party witnesses

I don't think there is any doubt that he is properly dodgy, but I do agree that his sentence is probably harsher because of who he is. I think there was quite a wealth of background evidence, and I believe that there are other women coming forward.

I have no idea how they can prosecute something like this, historically, without those things you mention, but whatever evidence was presented the jury of 8 men and 4 women, they found him unanimously guilty.

The waters very much got muddied with the details that came out, ie within minutes of meeting him she was licking his arse (literally) and she (I may have these mixed up with some of the assaults) saw him again twice, after the rape incident.

But it boils down to this, for me. Is Brand a properly dodgy scumbag, yes. Was the girl stupid for throwing herself at him, yes she was. Did she deserve to get raped because she was stupid, no she did not.

He has spent his entire career telling us the kind of person he is.

 

[Shyster]

Yes, Brand is scumbag and sexual pest, but seducing people for sex isn't illegal. It's a shitty thing to do, but it's legal.

As you've stated the girl gave him a rimjob, had a threesome, fucked him, sucked his dick, cheated on her boyfriend, discussed anal in text messages, didnt like the idea at first but gave in.

(That's basically anyone doing anal)

That's not rape. It's a 'I didn't like one of the things we tried'.

If she doesn't say no or stop then it doesn't matter if she liked it. Or changed her mind 22 years later

That does not deserve 9 years in prison.

 

[morty]

Yes, Brand is scumbag and sexual pest, but seducing people for sex isn't illegal. It's a shitty thing to do, but it's legal.

As you've stated the girl gave him a rimjob, had a threesome, fucked him, sucked his dick, cheated on her boyfriend, discussed anal in text messages, didnt like the idea at first but gave in.

(That's basically anyone doing anal)

That's not rape. It's a 'I didn't like one of the things we tried'.

If she doesn't say no or stop then it doesn't matter if she liked it. Or changed her mind 22 years later

That does not deserve 9 years in prison.

I don't disagree. But crucially 8 men and 4 women of the jury did. I think the clincher, apart from her saying "No" was that he also took his condom off, which is something specifically mentioned in rape guidelines. Also I think he apologised to her, by text, admitting he had taken things too far.

As I said, if this hadn't been Russel Brand, or if he was granted anonymity throughout the trial, maybe things would have ended differently.

 

[morty]

This has literally popped up on my Twitter feed, comparing this and Brand does make his sentence look harsh.

 

[Shyster]

This has literally popped up on my Twitter feed, comparing this and Brand does make his sentence look harsh.

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[morty]

I would finish by saying that I am in no way excusing or apologising for Russel "I like to throat fuck them till their mascara runs" Brand, but if that is the going rate of sentence, then it should be applied evenly, across the board.

 

[Wandering Aengus]

I've just seen an interview with Samantha Pressdee, a female comic who's been friends with Brand since 2006. According to her, she went back to his flat, got heavily involved, but she changed her mind "at the last possible moment". He immediately stopped. They've remained friends & nobody has ever warned her off him - including people who're now saying they did.
She's either a complete liar, or something stinks. I can only say she sounds authentic to me.

 

[morty]

I've just seen an interview with Samantha Pressdee, a female comic who's been friends with Brand since 2006. According to her, she went back to his flat, got heavily involved, but she changed her mind "at the last possible moment". He immediately stopped. They've remained friends & nobody has ever warned her off him - including people who're now saying they did.
She's either a complete liar, or something stinks. I can only say she sounds authentic to me.

Seems an odd thing to do, but I am sure Brand didn't mistreat every single woman he was with.

I'm wondering how his wife is feeling, right about now?