Celtic fans on Gary Hooper

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I have joined a Celtic forum purely to ask opinions on Gary Hooper. I will post responses as they come in. They have a Gary Hooper thread with about 300 pages on it which my post was moved to - looks like they still avidly follow him like we do with Holty
 
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Hi mate.

One thing I can tell you is, I look out for Norwich's team every week to see if Hooper is starting. I'm glad when he's not because it gives me a glimmer of hope that he'll want to come home.
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He played his best football when he played up front beside Stokes. They had an incredible understanding of how each other played which I don't think is an overstatement at all. When Hooper left I was gutted that football would probably never see 'Stooper' again.

When he was here, he was our main attacking outlet. It was a complete and utter myth that he was a 'penalty box striker' or a 'poacher'. He came deep, collected the ball from midfield and spread the play before bursting into the box again. His link up play was brilliant and he was a clinical finisher.

To be honest with you, I can't get my head around the fact he can't get a game for Norwich. I think a bit of that might be down to Jerome playing very well (I've only actually seen him play in the play off final where I thought he was quite good, but he has around a goal every other game which is very good for a player of his style.), but most of it will be down to the fact that the Hooper you have seen has just never hit the heights of when he was in green and white.

One of my biggest wishes for this transfer window is that Norwich deem him surplus, and we swoop in to bring him home.

Can't tell you much about Alex Neil other than I don't think Hamilton have managed to win a game since he left, and while he was there they were top of the league at one stage.
 
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Give him the ball in the 18 yard area and he'll score. He rarely scored from outside the box, although he was capable of the odd screamer.

Would have him back in a heartbeat, was our best striker since Larsson.

Lethal poacher but needs the service.
 
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Hooper played every kind of role for us, he scored 31 up top himself in the last season, the full team was built around his ability to find space on the pitch and his link up play. Regardless of whether he was up top himself or with a partner, he needs support though. He excels at linking up play.

He's very clinical though, so even isolated he usually puts away the one chance that comes his way. He's not one to sit on the centre backs and bully them though, his plays all about creating space for others and himself.

Not saw you guys since Alex Neil had taken over but his problem in the Premiership was lack of support, whoever you had playing in midfield very rarely attacked with him, so it was him alone. He still managed to score the chances that come his way but it's nowhere near his strength.
 
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Hooper was class. Great finisher with a real instinct for what to do in front of goal to make an opportunity. Would love to see him back, but I worry that his style of play wouldn't suit Ronnie's. He's best in a two up front, but Deila prefers the lone striker.
 
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On the contrary, I think Deila's style would suit him just fine as he could play off Commons, Johansen, GMS etc. He's proven he can play alone up front and he's underrated when it comes to passing and holding up the ball. Would love him back.
 
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His last season with Commons playing just off of him he was excellent. As was Commons.
 
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Agree with what others have said, he can easily play the lone striker role so lon as he has support from midfield. I do think his best position is up front with a partner though (namely Stokes).
 
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Maybe going against the grain here but imo he was a penalty box striker. yes, he can drop deep and link up play but first and foremost I would want to see him playing of the shoulder of the last defender or inside the box.

There's a few reasons I think he's struggled at Norwich. Firstly - you weren't playing him regularly even when he was scoring goals in the EPL. Did Elmander of RVW really offer anything Hooper didn't? Secondly, he needs support up top, not necessarily a strike partner but at least some support from midfield. We faced similar issues with Hooper in the CL as you guys did in the EPL, when our midfield was pegged back and Hooper was isolated up front he could fall out the game quickly. Still though, he was lethal at any level - give him a yard of space in the box and he could find the net.

I would still take him back here if the price was right, I think he would fit into out current setup really well with support from Johansen, Forrest, GMS and Armstrong.
 
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I do think the best we have seen of him is when linked closely to another player.    In the prem his link up play was good with Elmander (GH didnt score a goal without him on the pitch) and this season the understanding with Wes has been good and his quick intelinking play has been good.     His goal per min this season has been stunning,  as have a couple of his goals,  confirming the finishing reputation.

One the downside he has been up against in form grabban and jerome and AN seems to favour them ahead of GH.  

I am not sure he can do the lone role here - although its a valid point about ensuring midfielders get around him.   Three other things concern me;   even during the prem season he was started and dropped - he has consistentlty been dropped as performances have been inconsistent,  in both leagues,   there are increasing rumours about unprofessional activity,  and finally that this season while his goals were good and mins per strike fantastic most were against poor sides.

Will be interesting to see what happens during the summer.
 
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He has a very good goal scoring record for Celtic domestically and in Europe. He also finished top scorer in the Championship for Scunthorpe when he was 22 and they were battling relegation. So yeah, it is surprising that hes not scoring freely any more.. But I believe he would be scoring if he was given a proper chance.

I hope he's told he's not wanted
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Very surprised, I think he was top scorer in the Championship with a shocking Scunthorpe side before we signed him. I really thought Alex Neil coming in would have him kick on and have him playing the way we all know he can.

Hughton was a weird one, I think he wanted to play with a bit of flair and then panicked when the season started. He signed attacking players anyway!

I don't know what's going on with Hooper but I'd have him back here in a second, he's an extremely clever footballer who adapted to any role we gave him. Always at his best when we were on the front foot, his performance in our 3-2 away victory to Spartak Moscow in the Champions League was textbook for what you want in a lone striker though. Again though, we heavoly supported him from the midfield that game.

It's what he needs, attacking support, whether that's midfield runners or a partner up top.
 
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Sorry to be rude but what is the point of this?
You dont think its interesting to hear what fans who saw the best of Hooper think? Seeing as he hasnt done that well for us? I thought it was interesting
 
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He scored 19 in 35 in the Championship for a poor Scunthorpe United side the season before he joined Celtic, not to mention his performances in Europe for us, so the Championship and even the Premiership shouldn't be a problem for him if he's given the opportunity to play regularly (which Hughton certainly didn't give him). I'm surprised he hasn't done better though.
 
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Probably the right player at the wrong time for you. You said he was playing in a very defensive team, I think that as well as the fact that he's playing against better quality defenders in the premier league than in scotland is the reason he's not scored as many as he is capable of, any player would struggle if they're isolated on their own up front in a very defensive team.
 
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I think the issue with Hooper is as mentioned above, he needs to play off the front man, much like Wes does, but that would almost certainly mean leaving Wes out, and as he's far and away our most creative player it's not something I'm that keen on,

Hooper or Wes behind Grabban or Jerome seem to be the options we have, right now I think Hooper is clearly 4th choice, nothing against Hooper but if Wes is fit and you have to play someone in the hole surely it has to be Wessi
 

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