Norwich v Reading (Home) 29th November 2014.

[morty]

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Norwich V Reading​

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Championship Fixture​

Saturday 29th November 2014, 3pm

Carrow Road

 

[Din]

Mike Phelan starts work today so hopefully he'll be able to knock some sense into Adams for this one. Desperately need to win this.
 
Team:

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Ruddy​

Martin Turner Hooiveld Garrido​

Redmond Howson Tettey Olsson​

Hooper Jerome​

 
That's the team I'd play personally, although we probably won't see exactly that. I imagine it'll be that team but with Olsson at left back and Lafferty left midfield. 
 
Gonna go with 1-1 for this. Adams is fast running out of time, and if he continues to drop points at home then he surely can't last much longer. If it was down to me, and probably the majority of Norwich fans he would've gone by now.

 

[morty]

I would like to see a little more tactical nous, specifically when we don't have the ball.

I am not asking Redmond to defend, I mean Huckerby never did, did he? But lets not be surprised when he doesn't, lets plan for it.

Dare I say it, but we need to set up a little more negatively, we have mobile forwards, and the pace of Redmond, we need to exploit this, but do it sensibly. And maybe not be so eager to try and blitzkreig teams.

 

[SussexYellow]

Agree Morty, a bit more tactical nous definitely needed. Setting up a little deeper need not be negative. We could have more room to exploit when we go forward.

A crowded box I doubt will ever suit Lafferty and possibly Grabban. If we do go on all out attack then we need a striker who is effective when it gets crowded. For me that is Hooper.

 

[morty]

Agree Morty, a bit more tactical nous definitely needed. Setting up a little deeper need not be negative. We could have more room to exploit when we go forward.

A crowded box I doubt will ever suit Lafferty and possibly Grabban. If we do go on all out attack then we need a striker who is effective when it gets crowded. For me that is Hooper.

Yeah I think its pretty obvious that Hooper will get a start this Saturday.

Its tricky though, as if we sit back a bit at home, the crowd will be wailing by the fifth minute.

We need to be smarter though, and use the ball more effectively.

One point I will throw out there though, not really mentioned very much so far, but we all agree we have a decent squad, but if you look at who isn't available right now, either through injury (or having been bizarrely punted out on loan) we don't actually have that many tactical options.

 

[SussexYellow]

Yep, amazingly we have almost run out of central midfielders. Possibly only Howson fully fit and available for Saturday. Johnson suspended. Injury doubts over Tettey and O'Neill although both will hopefully be available. So if you keep one on the bench, that probably limits us to 442. Which is how I am anticipating we will set up.

Better the crowd wail in the 5th minute and celebrate victory at the end, than leave the ground shaking their heads again.

For a while at least its got to be all about the result. Which is hard for me to say because I do like to be entertained to make all the travelling wothwhile.

 

[Lake District Canary]

For once I agree with Morty.  Redmond needs to be forwards without restriction - like Wes in the number 10 role.   So a 4411 would be my ideal with Redmond behind Lafferty.

                Rudd

Martin Cuellar Miquel Garrido

 Howson Tettey O'Neill Ollson

                Redmond

                  Lafferty

 

[eatonparkboy]

To read many opinions, we have been in a position in virtually every game, to have won. Poor defending after misses by the strikers.

So that being the case, I can't see how Hooper can be left out after his finish last week. And it is obvious, without any attacking central midfield at the moment, he will need support. To me that has to be Jerome. And that means 4-4-2. No other way to maximise the missing ingredient of taking reasonable chances when they come our way.

The only doubt in my mind is the midfield due to injury doubts. But whatever the line up, we need some imagination rather than the passing for passing sake.

 

[Surgeryman]

Yeah I think its pretty obvious that Hooper will get a start this Saturday.

Its tricky though, as if we sit back a bit at home, the crowd will be wailing by the fifth minute.

We need to be smarter though, and use the ball more effectively.

One point I will throw out there though, not really mentioned very much so far, but we all agree we have a decent squad, but if you look at who isn't available right now, either through injury (or having been bizarrely punted out on loan) we don't actually have that many tactical options.

Totally agree with this. I have no idea what the tactics or line up will be.Not a lot of faith in adams to get anything right despite Phelan being here. I predict more of the same I'm afraid.

 

[morty]

Totally agree with this. I have no idea what the tactics or line up will be.

Not a lot of faith in adams to get anything right despite Phelan being here. I predict more of the same I'm afraid.

I think that a different pair of eyes, and a small bit of tinkering could actually make all the difference. Neyul has been a bit one dimensional in his attacking philosophy, and more than a bit naive on occasions. 

Recognising, during a game that something needs a small change of tactics, is something I expect Phelan to bring to the table. With a bit of nous we could have beaten Brighton 3-1.

 

[Surgeryman]

I think that a different pair of eyes, and a small bit of tinkering could actually make all the difference. Neyul has been a bit one dimensional in his attacking philosophy, and more than a bit naive on occasions. 

Recognising, during a game that something needs a small change of tactics, is something I expect Phelan to bring to the table. With a bit of nous we could have beaten Brighton 3-1.

Absolutely, when 2-1 we showed no nous and went gung ho without simply consolidating and controlling the game.

 

[Din]

Sounds like Tettey may well miss out due to injury, so with Johnson suspended it's likely that we'll see Howson and O'Neil in centre midfield. Good news is though that Ryan Bennett is going to play for the under 21's on Monday, so will probably be back for our next home game after this against Huddersfield.

 

[splutcho]

I worry that we are putting a lot of faith in an assistant coach here. He might be the answer to all our problems, but it's an awful lot of pressure that things will just instantly turn around due to Phelan.

 

[SussexYellow]

For once I agree with Morty. Redmond needs to be forwards without restriction - like Wes in the number 10 role. So a 4411 would be my ideal with Redmond behind Lafferty.

Rudd

Martin Cuellar Miquel Garrido

Howson Tettey O'Neill Ollson

Redmond

Lafferty

It will be a knock me down with a feather moment if we se that team Lakey!
I expect to see something like last weeks team. But with Lafferty on the left in place of Johnson. Whoever is the fitter of Tettey and O'Neill partnering Howson in central midfield. And you never know maybe Hooper instead of Grabban. But I am not getting my hopes up too high.

I might even keep last weeks centre back partnerhip. It was not a great selection against Brighton's small mobile forwards, but against Glenn Murray it is maybe what we need.

COYY

 

[ZLF]

Unless we go three at the back I definitely do not want to see 2 strikers tomorrow.    I have seen nothing to suggest that we can make a 4 man midfield work effectively and every one of our better performances have come when starting with a 5 man midfield moving to two up front if required. 

I expect to be disappointed and we will again regrettably start with a 442 variation and if that is the case I concur with the view that Hooper should start with Jerome.

Ideally I would go with

                    Ruddy

Martin  Turner  Hooiveld  Garrido

             O'Neil  Tettey

Redmond    Howson    Lafferty

                  Jerome

Subs  Rudd, Whittaker, Olsson, Murphy,  Hooper, Grabban,  McGrandles or Loza   

 

[Din]

 

[Yellow Fever]

For me as well it's a choice between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-4-2. Normally I'd prefer the former, but with the current injury problems in midfield, I suspect we'll see a 4-4-2 with Hooper and Jerome up front and Redmond and Lafferty on the flanks.

Ruddy

Martin Turner Hooiveld Garrido

Redmond Howson Tettey Lafferty

Hooper Jerome

Redmond has improved his tracking back and Lafferty thrives on that as well as attacking.

 

[Salopian]

Just about the only parts of the team where I am not expecting changes or surprises are Ruddy in goal and Jerome and Hooper up front.

I wonder if at some point NA may play Whittaker wide right in the midfield, with Martin behind him and/or perhaps Garrido behind Olsson on the left. This should bolster the . Whittaker and Olsson have played wide men before.

Howson must play in the centre and either Tettey or O'Neill.

But whop knows, exzcept Adams?

 

[Yellow Fever]

Can't see replacing Redmond with Whittaker being wildly popular, Salopian. Could happen for a difficult away game if Redmond is injured or leaves in January.

 

[goss93]

The problem is, all of these teams have players out of position. Lafferty is not a winger, nor are Howson, Olsson and Whittaker. The only left-sided midfielder we have is Murphy. If he's not playing, I think the only options we have are a diamond or possibly a 4-3-3.

Ruddy

Martin Cuellar Turner Garrido

Tettey

O'Neill Howson

Redmond

Jerome Hooper

OR

Same back 5

O'Neill Tettey Howson

Jerome Hooper Redmond.