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Norwich vs Brighton (Home) 22nd November 2014

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Norwich vs Brighton
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Championship Fixture
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Saturday 22nd November 2014, 15:00pm
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Carrow Road
 
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CJRV2014

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Hopefully see Redmond back in, would like to see Jerome Hooper partnership. Must be worth a try after failed attemps lately. Of Jerome & Grabban.
 
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Ruddy

Martin Cuellar Turner Garrido

Redmond Howson O'Neill Lafferty

Jerome Hooper
 
Lake District Canary

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                        Rudd

     Whittaker Martin Cuellar Garrido

Redmond Tettey O'Neill  Howson Murphy

                       Lafferty

451, aka 433.  Lafferty up front.   Give Rudd a go too.
 
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LDC, interesting.

No place for the best defender, nor both of the top scorers, nor the 'keeper.

I don't think that's the way to go.
 
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Need to win here. No exceptions. This is the first in a run of games against teams that are struggling a little bit, so we need to kick that run off with 3 points.

Team:

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Ruddy​
Martin Cuellar Turner Garrido​
Redmond Howson Tettey Olsson​
Hooper Jerome​
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Subs: Rudd Whittaker Johnson O'Neil Murphy Lafferty Grabban​
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Think it's about time Hooper got a proper chance, and I think that him playing up top with Jerome is our best chance, so for that a centre midfielder has to be dropped and out of the 3 for me it would be O'Neil, which is unfortunate for him as he's looked alright, but I prefer both Howson and Tettey. Olsson should be pushed higher up and Redmond definitely needs to start.

If we don't win this Adams needs to go unfortunately for me. We're slowly losing track on the top few which we really can't afford to do. This is a game where we should be getting 3 points, and therefore not losing any more ground, however if we don't get that 3 points then Neyul should go.

Going to be optimistic and say that we'll win 2-0. Brighton have only won once since August, so despite the fact we're on this torrid run I would never expect us to lose this. Anything less than a win is poor.
 
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LDC, interesting.

No place for the best defender, nor both of the top scorers, nor the 'keeper.

I don't think that's the way to go.
Turner/Ollson  have been responsible for two goals conceded recently, which cost us points.   Martin and Whittaker currently doing well for Scotland.  Rudd needs a game. Cuellar is ok at CB.  So is Garrido at left back.    Jerome will not score mountains of goals imo - he is good but not consistent enough.  His career record shows that. However, I hope he proves me wrong - and Lafferty hasn't had a chance up front from the start of a game.  Lets face it, what has gone on in the last few games hasn't exactly seen our best players shining!   I think they need a good shake up!
 
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Turner/Ollson  have been responsible for two goals conceded recently, which cost us points.   Martin and Whittaker currently doing well for Scotland.  Rudd needs a game. Cuellar is ok at CB.  So is Garrido at left back.    Jerome will not score mountains of goals imo - he is good but not consistent enough.  His career record shows that. However, I hope he proves me wrong - and Lafferty hasn't had a chance up front from the start of a game.  Lets face it, what has gone on in the last few games hasn't exactly seen our best players shining!   I think they need a good shake up!
I agree, it's not like Turner has been faultless but he is playing on his unfavoured left side in order to accommodate Martin. If you want to build something in this league you need Turner as your first choice CB, not Martin.

Doesn't matter how Martin and Whittaker do for Scotland. Nothing to do with Norwich City.

Fair point about Jerome's goal scoring record but surely the same goes for Lafferty?? And as far as Norwich City is concerned, Jerome has scored a few goals and Lafferty hasn't scored any.

That said, I'd have Lafferty in the team but not at the expense of both Jerome and Grabban.
 
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If we lose I can't go into work for a week, so we'd better pull our *bleep* fingers out.
 
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If we lose I can't go into work for a week, so we'd better pull our *bleep* fingers out.
Appreciate that you have a little geographic difficulty Splutcho. Not quite so acute up here in the north of the county! But yep would be better if we won this one.
Train journey home will be interestnig!
 
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Anybody feeling optimistic going to this game?

Support I am sure will be there as always from the beginning. But if we are losing late in the game this one looks to have the potential for the crowd to turn against the manager in a reprise of the WBA game.
 
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I do think two up front both weakens our midfield (by having just 4 bodies there) and our attack (as we dont seem to have a partnership)  Hooiveld did nothing wrong for me and comes in for whit.  Olsson Garrido is closer - a drop in form for Olsson sees him dropped. 

I would like a genuine starting contender on the left as competition for Lafferty as Murphy has not shown he can have an impact beyond 45 mins - continue his development as a good impact sub (hooper needs that too before he starts for me)

Redmond has to start if we want to win games - yes frustrating (which winger we ever not;  even legends such as hux and eadie) but still our best creative outlet for all him tics.

Up front we miss Jerome when he goes off - and for me is currently our best striking option - grabbans pace in the last 15-20 adding some zest in a 442 or as a straight swap as needed

                 Ruddy

Martin  Turner Hooiveld  Garrido

                Tettey   O'Neill

Redmond    Howson    Lafferty

                   Jerome 
 
Dubai Mark

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I am not sure why anyone would want to leave Ruddy out, one of the first on my team sheet......also Turner and Redmond...oh and Tettey......after that Howson.......then I start having difficulty and proving to myself just how hard it is to be a Manager.....
 
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As ZLF mentions, we didn't go too far wrong with Hooiveld in the team yet he was just dumped out. Not sure why he hasn't been back in but makes you wonder if he voiced his opinions on being messed around a bit.
 
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For me the team I'd pick is:-

Ruddy

Martin, Turner, Cuellar, Garrido

Redmond, Tettey, Howson, O'Neil

Jerome, Hooper
 
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We have to see a change today. If it is personnel then so be it. If it is formation, then ditto. But change has to happen. Nothing less than 6 points is good enough from the next two. I have been as guilty as anyone in saying that despite our poor form, we are still in touch. Well we need to be doing more now. And doing it with some good, attacking play.

NA has been put under a bit of pressure with Phelan's appointment and I think that is precisely what is needed. If he can't handle pressure then it doesn't matter how good his tactical nous is.

He needs to tell the players that what they have delivered, certainly recently, is just not good enough and if they really believe they are good enough, he doesn't need to do much more than pick them and send them out sufficiently inspired.
 
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                        Rudd

     Whittaker Martin Cuellar Garrido

Redmond Tettey O'Neill  Howson Murphy

                       Lafferty

451, aka 433.  Lafferty up front.   Give Rudd a go too.
Whittaker starting, Martin at CB, dropping Ruddy, Turner & Jerome and starting Murphy? That's an incredibly puzzling selection.
 
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I don't agree with the 'we're not far off' crowd. It's the same attitude that got us relegated. NA said we need to average 2 points a game but our current average is 1.5. We'd need to win the next 8 games in a row to get us up to an average of 2. No chance. Or we can average 2.3 between now and the end of the season to get our season average up to 2. Almost no chance. Lose today and even the play-offs will start to look out of our reach.
 
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Whittaker starting, Martin at CB, dropping Ruddy, Turner & Jerome and starting Murphy? That's an incredibly puzzling selection.
Whittaker and Martin are underated imo and the defensive woes have been more down to midfield indiscipline imo.  Turner has contribute with a couple of mistakes recently and I like Cuellar and Garrido.  Rudd deserves a game or two after such a good season last season, no disparagity to Ruddy intended.   Jerome is not a prolific striker - never has been.  He will score a few then not score a few imo and needs managing well, so I would give Lafferty the chance to stake a claim - we haven't seen him at his best yet and with a bit of luck he will start scoring a few goals - he's been unlucky so far and could have had two or three before now.   I also think Murphy could be given a few starts so he gets used to the pace of a game from the off. 
 
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I would like to think that, with the "new things" worked on in training over the past two weeks and with a few returning after uplift in the internationals, that we shall perform rather nearer our potential than we have recently.

I have my doubts. There is too much inconstancy among our better players, Redmond, Jerome, etc., and a defence which loses concentration and makes errors.

There have one or two occasions when we just did not really turn up, but generally the effort has been good, the faults have been the perennial ones, of not putting chances away, making it hard for colleagues by not being prepared for a pass by running into space, and failing to follow the manager's instructions in a well organised defence.
 
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