Pre season friendlies.

morty

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Fingers crossed Pritchards injury isn't as bad as it seems to be, ditto Klose! Will be a massive season for Pritchard, so would be good for him to get off to a flying start.
Pritchard looked to be in a lot of pain, and if its a ligament injury (as opposed to Klose's which was a knock) then I think he'll be lucky to see the start of the season.

Luckily Maddison is looking in fine form, so may be an opportunity for him!
 
dj161

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just so you all know the Arminia Bielefeld friendly due to kick off in a couple of minutes is to be streamed live on bet365, and I imagine offer online betting sites
 
Din

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The club have put up a link to watch it on Twitter, not that it's working yet..

norw.ch/DSCLive 

Edit: It does work but you have to login. I just logged in with my Facebook and it's working fine.

edi
 
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dj161

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2-1 city at half time, playing some nice stuff, reminds me of Swansea when rodgers was in charge, lots of passing, some of it seemingly passing for the sake of passing, a couple of defensive errors for both teams openers, and then a Jerome penalty to give city a half time lead after a foul on Watkins
 
dj161

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FT 3-1 City, Nelson with a really nice goal with about 5 minutes to go, coming down the left and hitting it across the keeper into the far corner, good goal, good result, good feeling for the season ahead
 
Canaryboy

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Watched the last half an hour, easy to see why Ryan Bennett would be completely the wrong player in this side with us passing the ball along the back line and trying to keep our hoofs to a minimum. 

Impressed with the composure of the back 5 or 6, remain concerned about squad balance though.... e.g. Is he aware that Pinto is an injury a season man, and that Tettey will get niggles and suspensions.

Do think we need a right back and two centre mids (now that Thompson is out for the season, possibly would have got away with one). Feel a bit better after watching that, as long as we can get those 2 or 3 bodies in as soon as possible. Farke did say he expected a couple to come in. 
 
Canaryboy

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I'm wondering whether we will actually still have a marquee signing of sorts, a few million on an attacking player or something, because you'd think that if the main XI was in place they'd just announce the squad numbers for the commercial revenue, makes me wonder whether they are holding fire on that because a couple of the prime squad numbers still need filling (so as to not play their hand + because those players may sell shirts?). 
 
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splutcho

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Tettey was poor tonight, but I think that second half was the best we've played in pre season. Great goal from Oliveira.

Not going to get carried away though, we had a perfect record under Bryan Gunn in pre season I believe.
 
hogesar

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The key thing is going to be patience. You have to appreciate the work from Farke and his coaching team - we have completely changed our style in one pre season and not only that, but it's produced results albeit only in friendlys so far.

But patience will be required both during games (we will be patient for an opening rather than the attack and hope AN style) but also long term because to completely change our style, sell a couple of key players and integrate half a new squad AND finish top six at the first time of asking is a mammoth task.
 
Din

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Watched the game yesterday, first time I'd seen us since Farke came in. All in all was really pleased. Some points from my view:

  • This new system obviously relies very heavily on keeping hold of the ball, and in particular our defence and holding midfielder are going to see a lot of it. With that in mind I'm not sure that Tettey is really the right man to have in that position. Obviously his defensive attributes and ability to read the play make him different from our other central midfielders, however a number of times yesterday the defence gave him the ball and I would immediately feel worried that he'd give it away, and some of the time he did, or the pass he did play would be a bit dodgy. Reed to be fair did look like a more well-rounded player, and certainly wasn't afraid to pull out of a tackle. It'll be interesting to see whether he can oust Tettey. We have said though that we are planning on signing a replacement for Howson, and if we do I hope we could essentially find a Tettey who can pass.
  • Thought Watkins looked impressive. Vrancic was tidy as well and our new centre backs both look very comfortable on the ball, though Zimmermann and maybe Franke should've done better for their goal. Gunn made a brilliant save as well towards the end. As I said as well, Reed looked good once he came on. Husband was the only new player who I wasn't that convinced by. Despite the goal, that he took very well, I didn't think Naismith was that good, same with Josh Murphy, and also as I said Tettey could've been better. Jerome though was his usual self. Absolutely brilliant work in the build-up to the first goal. I think both the 1st and 3rd goal show the importance of both Jerome and Oliveira. Jerome could never have done what Oliveira did for the 3rd goal (what a goal by the way), but Oliveira couldn't have done what Jerome did in the same way for Naismith's goal.
  • Really like the fact that Farke switched up the formation during the game when he realised we could be more effective, particularly to a 3 at the back. One criticism of all our managers since Lambert was their stubbornness in terms of never really changing shape. Don't think that's something we'll have to worry about with Farke. We instantly looked a lot more comfortable once we went to a back 3.
  • Our ability to keep hold of the ball was great to watch. I was surprised by how good our passing was at times, particularly as I said from the 2 centre backs. On several occasions we probably put 20 plus passes together before eventually moving the ball into a more threatening position. There's a bloke who sits in front of me at Carrow Road who gets really angry every time we pass the ball backwards in the normal way, he's not going to like this new style :D  Really impressed though with our movement and passing ability overall though.
  • As others have said, we are going to have to be patient with the team. I'm more than prepared to do that, and I'm sure the majority of Norwich fans will be as well. However I can see a lot of people (particularly some of those who are on the other forum) moaning and getting impatient and defeatist if it takes time for the players to get used to this new system. I think early on this year, mainly in the first 10 games or so, I can see us giving away some avoidable goals as we give the ball away in relatively dangerous areas because we're still not amazing at the whole playing out from the back thing. Obviously no-one wants the team to lose, but I do think in the opening games we should refrain from getting on the player's back if we can help it. Ultimately the vast majority of Norwich fans wanted this overhaul of players and style to happen.
 
Fenway Frank

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Thanks, I didn't see the game so interesting stuff. My concern is the " get it up the pitch " mob too as I don't think their patience will last too long
 
Din

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Going to the Brighton game tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing us live under Farke, Be interesting to see if because we're against Premier League opposition we go a little bit more reserved and defensive, or because in all honesty it is a winnable game (won this fixture last season and Brighton have barely added to their squad since) whether Farke sticks to his guns and we try and control the game like we have been doing in all our friendlies so far. Will be a good test that's for sure!
 
Fenway Frank

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I've been at work, could someone do a match report please 
 
Din

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Have to say once again nothing but positives for me. Really impressive performance and we deserved a win in all honesty. Shame we couldn't get if we're saving that win for the opening day I won't mind :D

Really pleased with the midfield trio of Reed, Vrancic and Maddison. Would say those 3 were probably our 3 best players, particularly first half. Reed is great on the ball and looks as if he could have a key role in this Farke side. Brilliant at linking the defence and midfield and not afraid to get stuck in either. Vrancic is such a tidy player and has so much composure. If he's as good as he's looked in pre-season then we've got a superb player on our hands. Nearly scored a brilliant goal from the half-way line as well, which shows the sort of player he is. Maddison was quiet 2nd half but first half looked dangerous and it's clear he isn't afraid to run at opposition defences.

Wildschut for the 2nd game in a row was a revelation down the right hand side. Very quick, powerful and direct and caused trouble a number of times down our right. Watkins was a bit quieter than he was in the game I watched against Arminia, but his goal was an absolute belter! Wonderful goal. Jerome was a bit quiet as well but ultimately didn't do anything wrong. Have to say though my one reservation about what I've seen from this side so far is Husband. He's good with the ball and also a threat going forward, but defensively he does appear to be a bit of a weak link. Brighton's goal came from his flank and in general every time they threatened it appeared to be down that side. He was better 2nd half though to be fair. Zimmermann and Franke both solid but unspectacular, as I've said previously though both players are very comfortable on the ball. Martin also decent enough, didn't offer the same sort of threat going forward as Husband offered on the other side however hopefully next week Pinto will replace him in the team. Gunn had nothing really to do.

Brighton's goal was an odd one really. The cross didn't seem particularly dangerous, and Gross, the Brighton player, was facing away from goal when he flicked the ball on, but it just seemed to glance off his head and deceive everyone as it looped into the corner. Our goal though was fantastic, smashing strike by Watkins. We were so unlucky as well not to win it when Oliveira hit the post at the end. It really was something out of nothing, he was almost standing still when with one touch he moved the ball out of his feet and then smashed it from 25 yards out. 'Keeper was beaten (he was tiny by the way their goalkeeper) he was just fortunate it wasn't 2 inches to the left.

On our style, not a lot else that I can say that I didn't in the post a few posts up after our game against Arminia. Kept possession brilliantly and played out from the back. The only thing I would say is we moved the ball slightly quicker and with a bit more purpose than we did a couple of games ago. Whether that was our players have adapted to the style more, whether it was putting Reed into the holding role ahead of the less technically gifted Tettey, or whether it was we were at home, or against better opposition I don't know. 

But yeah, really impressed overall, and actually feeling good going into next week.
 
dj161

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Really enjoyed the game today, and I can't really add much more to what Din has already said, I felt Wildschut was superb today and would be my man of the match, we looked a bit shaky at the back at times but I feel this will ease with time as the squad get more experienced in using this system, on the subject of pinto though I'd very much doubt he'd come straight in next week as he's had no pre-season at all, could do with an u23 game and then maybe the cup game against Swindon before we through him straight back into the league line-up
 

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