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Ricky

morty

morty

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Rumours that there is a buy option in with the loan deal, a figure of 6m euros is touted.

St Ettienne are also covering all of his wages during the loan.
 
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The Ghost of Michael Theo

The Ghost of Michael Theo

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Oh Ricky

What a pity

You don't understand.......(where the goal is, and how to get the ball in there)

Hopefully he comes back either a player we can use in the Premier League, or a player with some value we can sell.
 
TILLY

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My view is we paid champagne money for a brown ale. Fans got carried away with a few Youtube clips and the size of the fee we paid. RVW needs to rebuild his career and the hustle and bussle of a 46 game Championship season is most certainly not the place to attempt that. Six million Euros if turned into a transfer seems about right and everybody can then move on.
 
Yellow Fever

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Agree with that Tilly, and I'd guess there's a sizable loan fee on the deal as well.
 
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barclay seats 48/49

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If you believe what sky are saying ,, also reported on the pink un,, it's a loan with an option to buy . Bad news I think ,, now I fear losing a couple more ,, and we are in trouble . I hope that the club has the guts to keep hooper . Unfortunately looks as if it's all about the money ,, offload the wages . So much for " we don't need to sell nonsense .

Was looking forward to tonight ,, feeling a lot less enthusiastic now .
 
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CJRV2014

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Wages paid in full, €6m to make it permanent in the summer. I guess they are paying a loan fee too.
 
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CJRV2014

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In my eyes we have to keep 3 key players: Ruddy

Redmond

Hooper
 
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gerryinromania

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If he goes to St.Etienne, they are in Europa league and play some nice football. This will give him a chance to shine again and if he is on loan, then this will boost his value again. If he can get going again
 
morty

morty

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Considering the season Ricky had, can we chalk this down to another good bit of business by McNally?
 
Robert Brompton

Robert Brompton

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I don't think a big club like St Étienne would be signing him if they thought he would be "a waste of money". He is a good player and my money is on him doing well over there.
I was not suggesting that he would be a waste of money to St Etienne but that to date he has been a waste of money for us. In excess of £10 million for a one goal return cannot be termed anything other than a total waste. I hope he does well if he goes there - that would be good for us and far less of a gamble than paying his high wages if he struggles in the Championship.
 
Agent Dale Cooper

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If you believe what sky are saying ,, also reported on the pink un,, it's a loan with an option to buy . Bad news I think ,, now I fear losing a couple more ,, and we are in trouble . I hope that the club has the guts to keep hooper . Unfortunately looks as if it's all about the money ,, offload the wages . So much for " we don't need to sell nonsense .

Was looking forward to tonight ,, feeling a lot less enthusiastic now .
I don't agree. Clearly by giving him squad number 20 Adams was intimating that he didn't see him as the spearhead of the attack. I think it's more a case of Adams not wanting him than the club squeezing him out to save money. The guy's been a consummate pro amid all the speculation, but a year in a decent league with European football to boot works well for all concerned. I think we'll hang on to Hooper now, unless we get 'silly money' and have a replacement lined up.
 
morty

morty

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I don't agree. Clearly by giving him squad number 20 Adams was intimating that he didn't see him as the spearhead of the attack. I think it's more a case of Adams not wanting him than the club squeezing him out to save money. The guy's been a consummate pro amid all the speculation, but a year in a decent league with European football to boot works well for all concerned. I think we'll hang on to Hooper now, unless we get 'silly money' and have a replacement lined up.
Turning that around slightly, it would be just as feasible that Ricky and Neil had a chat, and Ricky expressed a preference to going on loan somewhere, if the opportunity came up. Saying on twitter how much you want to stay at a club is the modern day equivalent of a player kissing his badge one week, and being off the next.
 
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I don't think we will. I hope he'll have a decent season there, and either come back to us a better striker, or actually be worth something, if we decide to sell. This move makes perfect sense to me.
he will never score for ncfc again
 
Yellowfuture

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I don't agree. Clearly by giving him squad number 20 Adams was intimating that he didn't see him as the spearhead of the attack. I think it's more a case of Adams not wanting him than the club squeezing him out to save money. The guy's been a consummate pro amid all the speculation, but a year in a decent league with European football to boot works well for all concerned. I think we'll hang on to Hooper now, unless we get 'silly money' and have a replacement lined up.


That's also my view Agent Dale, I don't see why Ricky going out indicates that others will follow? I don't think Adams sees him in his current plans, who knows what might happen next season if we go up and he has a good season in France, we may well see him back.

I don't agree with your brown ale analogy Tilly, I just don't think he ever got going, you don't get too much brown ale getting caps for Holland.
 
The Ghost of Michael Theo

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he will never score for ncfc again
I think you're right.

If I'd have known it at the time - almost a year ago - when he scored that quite lovely header against Everton. I'd think I would have celebrated a lot more memorably.

After all, it was the most expensive goal in NCFC history.
 
Agent Dale Cooper

Agent Dale Cooper

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Turning that around slightly, it would be just as feasible that Ricky and Neil had a chat, and Ricky expressed a preference to going on loan somewhere, if the opportunity came up. Saying on twitter how much you want to stay at a club is the modern day equivalent of a player kissing his badge one week, and being off the next.
Yeah, that's equally likely. To me it's clear that one party doesn't want RvW here, whether that's Adams or the player himself.
 
Yellow Fever

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I think it's RvW myself. Adams has said publicly that he wants him to stay.

Meanwhile Couple of reports that the signing of Gary O'Neil is near: 

http://carrowroad.net/cnews/index.php?post=o-neil-signing-looks-close 

I'd be pleased with this. 
 
flashdown

flashdown

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This looks to be just too good to pass up from a financial point of view.  St. Etienne would take all of the wages which would open up money to be used on bringing players in to strengthen our side that will see playing time.

I like RVW and think he is a good guy, but deep down I think he was the 4th choice for striker.  I am not sure what the striker situation is at St. Etienne but I am betting its better than being the 4th option.
 
Gaffer

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Agree with flashdown 100%. Good bit of business if they pay his wages for a season then take him for £4.75 million, so basically they're getting him for £5 million, which is not such a loss on our initial investment. Of course the nightmare scenario is he flops in France too and we have to take back a striker who would then be worth almost nothing. 
 
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CanaryNath

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St Etienne are probably paying around €2m for the loan, on top of covering his wages.

This, in addition to a potential €6m fee represents good business.

A shame, but good business.
 
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