morty
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Hoping we can put on a decent performance here, as just been and bought a ticket!
Press conference starting soon....
Press conference starting soon....
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morty
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Trybull unavailable - back strain, out for 7 to 10 days.
Husband - groin strain, out for 2 weeks.
Todd Cantwell to travel with the squad.
Pritchard plays for the u23's tonight!!!
Russel Martin also playing for u23's, Naismith not quite ready.
Feeling a wee bit that we're not getting the rub of the green with injuries!
Husband - groin strain, out for 2 weeks.
Todd Cantwell to travel with the squad.
Pritchard plays for the u23's tonight!!!
Russel Martin also playing for u23's, Naismith not quite ready.
Feeling a wee bit that we're not getting the rub of the green with injuries!
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GJP
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On the subject of injuries - Preston have had 8 defenders out injured. Which AN hasn't used as an excuse but just wants to mention it.
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Anyway, bad news about Trybull. Not sure if Jimmy is much of a loss other than 1 less body.
Good news about AP. We desperately need an injection of "spark".
Good news about AP. We desperately need an injection of "spark".
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F*ck it. All out attack.
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GJP
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Can't see it. Think 3 at the back and wing backs is more likely.
But there are teams who play 2 up and get joy from it so it shouldn't be dismissed.
But there are teams who play 2 up and get joy from it so it shouldn't be dismissed.
Canaryboy
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Our injury problems raise a interesting conundrum though.... do we view it as number 1 or number 2?
1). We could really have done with Carlton Morris, and now Godfrey, and were silly to loan them out because we needed the numbers. Might have an extra point or two.
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2). Regardless of how much we could have done with them, they'll come back here as much stronger players and could make a real impact here next season?
Have to say that if we are truly long term planning now, then you'd choose number 2 wouldn't you? Over hoarding players but potentially hindering their development. We've probably done the right thing. Look at Zeki Fryers, 25 years old and once the subject of a wrangle between Spurs and Man Utd, now at Barnsley after playing just 43 games by the age of 25! Probably still a decent player in fairness and Heckingbttom knows what he is doing (signing players who he thinks can be sold to a bigger club later on),but hardly the career he would have been projected to have had a this stage.
Ryan Jarvis probably didn't reach his full potential because he spent such long periods stuck in the reserves, 6 months at a time, barely ever getting a start. Its best that young players are playing regularly once they are fully developed physically. If they are ready for first team football then we've done right by them (and probably us) by not keeping them around 'just in case' this summer.
Just a real shame about Louis Thompson though, but then again if he didn't get injured would we have signed Trybull?
1). We could really have done with Carlton Morris, and now Godfrey, and were silly to loan them out because we needed the numbers. Might have an extra point or two.
or...
2). Regardless of how much we could have done with them, they'll come back here as much stronger players and could make a real impact here next season?
Have to say that if we are truly long term planning now, then you'd choose number 2 wouldn't you? Over hoarding players but potentially hindering their development. We've probably done the right thing. Look at Zeki Fryers, 25 years old and once the subject of a wrangle between Spurs and Man Utd, now at Barnsley after playing just 43 games by the age of 25! Probably still a decent player in fairness and Heckingbttom knows what he is doing (signing players who he thinks can be sold to a bigger club later on),but hardly the career he would have been projected to have had a this stage.
Ryan Jarvis probably didn't reach his full potential because he spent such long periods stuck in the reserves, 6 months at a time, barely ever getting a start. Its best that young players are playing regularly once they are fully developed physically. If they are ready for first team football then we've done right by them (and probably us) by not keeping them around 'just in case' this summer.
Just a real shame about Louis Thompson though, but then again if he didn't get injured would we have signed Trybull?
Canaryboy
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(That came out a bit strange, obviously its a huge shame regardless, but just pointing out that him not getting injured wouldn't necessarily mean we'd now have more depth as we probably moved for Trybull because of the injury).
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GJP
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Ryan Jarvis, like many youngsters, was just good for his age group but I never looked at him and thought he's going on to be something special.
Canaryboy
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Adrian Coote was a world beater at every age group and in the reserves, think he had some goal scoring records to his name? An old colleague of mine played Sunday League with him, and said that Coote used to admit that he was just too slow for league football.
Must have been REALLY slow though, because plenty of target men get away with not having any pace?! I suspect there may have been an element of just falling out of love with the game at some stage.
Must have been REALLY slow though, because plenty of target men get away with not having any pace?! I suspect there may have been an element of just falling out of love with the game at some stage.
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Canaryboy
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I'm surprised Rossi Jarvis didn't have a longer career in the football league, was a tidy little holding midfielder, but perhaps could have done if he was willing to hit the road, his CV suggests he just didn't want to move away.
Sometimes easy to forget that football to a standard footballer is just a job like any other, and if you can only find a job in Exeter or Carlisle and simply don't want to move there... then a change of career to pay the mortgage and doing your current one on the side is one option on the table, which would be the equivalent of a league footballer taking £200 a week to play part time.
Sometimes easy to forget that football to a standard footballer is just a job like any other, and if you can only find a job in Exeter or Carlisle and simply don't want to move there... then a change of career to pay the mortgage and doing your current one on the side is one option on the table, which would be the equivalent of a league footballer taking £200 a week to play part time.
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Canaryboy
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Spillane is a bit of an odd one because he looked really tidy at League 1 level and did well at a few clubs after leaving us, then just seemed to drift in non-league. Looked to have spare chin the last time I saw a photo of him though, so perhaps a picture sometimes says a thousand words!
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GJP
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See my comment on Ryan.
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Lives in Wymondham and plays for Chelmsford, I think. Another one who i predicted would struggle in League football.
Canaryboy
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I'm not saying Rossi Jarvis was anything special or anywhere near good us for us, I'm saying that I think he could have a longer career in the league or at least Conference National if he was prepared to hit the road like his brother did. He played at Luton and then Cambridge, appears to be an unwillingness to go play outside of East Anglia so he went to Lowestoft, I know he had two kids pretty young so that would be why.
There are quite a few clubs in the League who really struggle to recruit players due to geography (being stuck in the middle of nowhere) and all sorts of former prospects end up at those clubs so they can keep on playing league football, Newport County is one of those.... where Danny Crow went, they've got Zavon Hines at the minute!
Exeter is another one, where Matt Gill forged a career. Some players have the willingness to go wherever somebody is offering them professional terms, and others just don't, and on the face of it it looks like Rossi is one of the latter and Ryan was one of the former.
Grant Holt clearly one of those willing to travel... a year in South Korea, a year commuting from Norwich to Edinburgh, taking a job in Barrow when his kids are in Norwich. Some players willing to do that, others are not.... and pay has to be worth it also doesn't it? £800 at Newport County isn't enough to pay the mortgage on the Norwich home AND rent a flat in Newport for a season. For a single player it might be worth it, rent the house out for a year and rent one in the arse end of nowhere to get a years league football, not enough to support a family 300 miles away. That's the flip side of our geographical limitations, it also affects local players.... Billy Sharp has managed to play all but one year of his career within a 40 mile radius and still be perceived as a journeyman, and can still drop down and do a year or two at Chesterfield.
There are also teams in Non-league who pay more than the poorest teams in the League system. Accrington had most players on factory wages (£300) a couple of years ago and probably still do.... Stefan Moore was on £2.5k a week in the Conference North at one stage (he was prolific at that level). I suspect personal circumstances dictate whether you are willing to play for £500 a week just to call yourself a professional footballer, or take £250 at a Sutton United or Chelmsford and earn £500 a week fitting kitchens during the week.... children or no children probably the difference.
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GJP
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Generally there is just silly money in football at all levels these days. Down at Thurlow Nunn league there will be lads on a couple hundred or more per game. Might even be similar amounts going around the Anglian Comb for the right player.
hogesar
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Reckon we'll do Forest 4-0
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