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Fenway Frank

Fenway Frank

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Doesn’t affect me for home games, not sure about away matches though, can’t help but feel we’re being held to ransom if we want tickets for away games. I don’t have a problem about away season ticket holders and those with 10+ games from last season getting first dibs, but after that it’s just about who pays the most
 
N

Number 9

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Ticket prices are £30 though, so first game max price is £50. Every other game purchased is £30.
I paid £55 when Man City last came here - plus my membership at start of season.
 
morty

morty

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Been travelling so haven't really had time to digest this properly, but it seems it hasn't gone down too well. I think I did 7 or 8 away games last season so my points are defunct and I am in the pot with jonny come lately football tourists who did zero games last season. And I have to pay 50 quid for the pleasure?
Great stuff.
 
N

Number 9

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Been travelling so haven't really had time to digest this properly, but it seems it hasn't gone down too well. I think I did 7 or 8 away games last season so my points are defunct and I am in the pot with jonny come lately football tourists who did zero games last season. And I have to pay 50 quid for the pleasure?
Great stuff.
I cant get to away games, manage half dozen home games with the commitments I have ( call me a plastic).

For my situation, its actually cheaper than previous years, I can see how the loyal away fans would feel let down.
What's the away availability versus demand for the PL?
Obv a certain percentage of the attendance has to be away fans, is the allocation fully used up every game?
 
morty

morty

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I cant get to away games, manage half dozen home games with the commitments I have ( call me a plastic).

For my situation, its actually cheaper than previous years, I can see how the loyal away fans would feel let down.
What's the away availability versus demand for the PL?
Obv a certain percentage of the attendance has to be away fans, is the allocation fully used up every game?
Nah, we all have different situations, and going to football is expensive, so its a bit crass putting people down based on how many games they go to, but it does go on.

Yeah it irks, I went to probably 8 games last year with my two lads. It is easy to see off £150 each time in tickets, travel, food, beer etc, so it is a big financial commitment.

I can't remember last time when we were in the Prem if away allocations sold out or not, some of the allocations aren't exactly generous, for instance (I think) you only get about 2500 for Old Trafford.
 
N

Number 9

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This is from the PL rules

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morty

morty

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Must have been 3000 then! I think there will be real issues getting tickets this season with them capping the price at 30 quid, as last time people were put off by some games being nearer 50. Arsenal used to go really quickly as they gave us cheaper tickets.
 
Fenway Frank

Fenway Frank

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There will only be problems for tickets at the top six in my opinion. Die hard fans will go to Burnley / Southampton/Palace and I think availability will be ok for those matches.
 
N

Number 9

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Must have been 3000 then! I think there will be real issues getting tickets this season with them capping the price at 30 quid, as last time people were put off by some games being nearer 50. Arsenal used to go really quickly as they gave us cheaper tickets.
Apparently that number has dropped on occasion relative to the amount of standing
 
morty

morty

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Joint statement from Forces2Canaries, AlongcomeNorwich, Barclay end Norwich, Proud Canaries and the supporter's trust.

Following on from last week’s announcement of the club’s new home and away membership schemes, we as supporter groups have been considering our position and talking to other fans about the impact this will have on them. Following receipt of this feedback we felt it would be useful to those interested to understand our position.

It is clear from elements of the new membership scheme that the club have recognised the previous scheme had issues, particularly in how members were treated in the allocation of away tickets.
The parity this model brings between season ticket holders and members for away allocations is welcomed, as is the decision to have a single category of pricing for home matches and the capping of general admission tickets at £30.

However, we feel it is unfortunate that the club have implemented this and, seemingly passed a large part of the cost onto those loyal away fans, via this new membership scheme.

We recognise of course that a self-funded club like ours needs to maximise revenue, but membership schemes, especially those which are linked to access to tickets, need to be based on fairness and affordable tickets for all, rather than a one-off entry fee, whilst striking a sensible balance between loyalty of existing fans and allowing new supporters to also acquire tickets. . Membership schemes need to be the link between the club and the fans bringing us all together, not dividing us into factions.

Comparatively, the new membership scheme is expensive, particularly for members wishing to attend both home and away games and especially if they wish to do so with their families. From research carried out by the fan groups, we’ve found it to be far more expensive in comparison to other Premier League teams, none of whom operate a separate away membership scheme.

That research has also identified, that there is no perfect system. There are of course grumbles among other fanbases about their respective schemes, but there are also pockets of good practice which reward loyalty and help new fans see games, such as ballots for elements of away ticket allocations and points across a number of seasons (or for life) based on the amount of games attended.

For away tickets, the £30 cap was achieved after a lengthy and at times bitter battle between fans and clubs to secure more affordable football. The access to live football is at the heart of fan culture and it’s looked upon very cynically when affordable football is then turned into a commercial exercise to recoup those costs by selling access to those very tickets.

It also fails to protect the loyalty of those who have attended away games in the past, in the way future away match tickets will be allocated. When the fans who've attended the most away games previously are the ones who feel they're the biggest losers of the new scheme, it's clear the club have perhaps not got this right.

Many have approached us to say that they see this as a tax on their loyalty, a ransom to be paid to keep their rightful place at the top of the allocation scheme and we agree that this scheme has been unfair in wiping people’s loyally attained points overnight.

The feeling is, that this scheme has damaged the bond between the club and the fanbase. As supporter groups, we have seen and felt the effort in the last few years to build bridges between club and fans, to the point we arrived at a position where for many of us we’d never felt so united. It takes time to build up such a relationship, but it can be undone very quickly when the fanbase feels their support is being taken advantage of.

Any new membership scheme needs to be inclusive and affordable, both for individual fans and families, who are likely suffer greatly from the scheme as it stands with the likely consequence that parents may not be prepared to pay £50 membership fees for their children, so discouraging the fans of the future. It must work in the interests of the fanbase by meeting the requirements of a wide range of fans, from those who wish to attend matches either at home or away, or both, and also those who simply wish to feel part of a self-funded community club.

It must protect the loyalty of those who have followed the club both home and away on a regular basis and build upon the unity which has been the focal point of so much of our recent success, while not creating a closed shop.

To achieve that the starting point must be proper fan consultation, with a scheme that has been built alongside and in accordance with the fans. The consultation undertaken for the new scheme should never have been allowed to be the final phase of the implementation, whereby a meeting was organised with around 24 hours’ notice and appears to have been an exercise in gauging last-minute opinion rather than inviting assistance in shaping a new scheme that would work for, and be fair to, everybody.

Our fanbase are rightly proud of our club. They are proud that it’s so intrinsically linked to the community and proud of what we’ve achieved together to this point. What is now required is a membership scheme which allows current and new fans to be a part of that, while meeting the standards and values that sit at the heart of who we are and what we do.

We call on the club to urgently rethink the new membership scheme and re-engage across the fanbase to find a way forward which is beneficial to all.
 
N

Number 9

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So club will look at it again after talking to supporters groups.
 
dj161

dj161

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why don't they just make it that if you buy the £30 membership you also get 10% off the cost of your away tickets, and 15% off with the £50 membership, essentially this is the footballing equivalent of the Thorpe Park fast pass in it's current state
 
OldRobert

OldRobert

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Thank you for posting that Morty. I am unable to attend matches, but it has helped me to understand what those of you who do are facing with the new Membership Scheme.
 
Canaryboy

Canaryboy

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I've got a vested interest in hoping that the new membership scheme remains to be honest, as an exile fan in the North who only does away games.

The problem I'd have with a points system is that in 6 away games I went to last year..... I paid on the gate for 3 of them!

But this scheme could and should clearly have been better thought out. When a team gets promoted you suddenly get Norwich based Man Utd fans deciding to support the club for a year....

.... and its ludicrous that some rich daytripping Liverpool fan from Dublin can now buy a Norwich membership for £50 to get himself a ticket in the Norwich end at Anfield, if he can't get himself a home ticket (REALLY hard to get tickets at Anfield).

The club has gone from one extreme to the other.

From the start they should have rewarded the people who could prove they went to 10 away games last season (the 750).

Then they should have had a special long distance fan membership for fans with an existing customer number and purchase history of some sort from the past few years (e.g. a couple of shirts and a few tickets) who live further than, I dunno.... 60 miles from Norwich..... they should have limited that to 2500 memberships at £50, and made up to 750 away tickets available to them.

Season ticket holders then first dibs over the rest. For a typical Premier League game the allocation is 3,000...... so that's a minimum of 1,500 available to season ticket holders for the typical game.

But in reality more. If we played Man Utd and had an allocation of 3,000 then open it up to the Exile memberships and those away super fans for 48 hours on a Monday. Lets say that they sell about 1000 from both of those..... then season ticket holders have first dibs on the next 2,000 for the rest of the week.

Any left at the end of the week then go back to the Exile member people (if their full 750 is sold),and then any remaining then on general sale to anybody with a customer number.

I meet ssssooooo many Norwich fans from all over the North at Northern away games, and I do think the club needed to do something for us lot (especially as for loads of games you can pay on the gate, I bet plenty have done 10 away games but didn't purchase via the clubs ticketing system), but they didn't need to screw over season ticket holders like this in the process.
 

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