lyb
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It probably won't completely destroy his career. This won't hurt his prospects in Eastern Europe or Russia and the Jewish dig will probably get him to the top of a lot of shortlists in the Middle East.
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Canaryboy
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Talksport will give him a radio show.
skijumptoes
Active Member
100% agree with that view, as CanaryBoy has stated, it will be interesting if other players speak up - For me that's the sword he will die by.
Right now he's still a Canary legend for me, and i won't be swayed by paper talk alone.
lyb
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Copresenting with Stan Collymore.
Bethnal Yellow and Green
New Member
This isn't 'paper talk' it's a representation from a legal firm and Malkay has admitted that he sent the texts via his statement made by the LMA.
Hopefully he'll be taken out of the Norwich Hall of Fame pretty damn quickly.
Canaryboy
Well-Known Member
Not sure I agree with that, he was voted in based on what he achieved here as a player and there is plenty of time for him to show remorse and make amends in some way (although management career almost certainly over).
One of the most vocal critics of Malky right now, for example, is Stan Collymore. A self-confessed former wife beater, who has shown a lot of remorse and become respected by many in the process.
Peter Mendham didn't get taken out of the hall of fame for almost murdering his girlfriend with a knife
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lyb
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Wouldn't go that far. When it gets to the stage of people being denounced and denying any of their previous achievements because they've done something wrong, things start getting rather Orwellian.
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Bethnal Yellow and Green
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Norwich ban fans for life for racist statements, by a racist is honoured in the Hall of Fame?
Quite the contradicting statements from the club.
Canaryboy
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Good point.
But banning two supporters indefinitely for almost scratching Bryan Gunn with a season ticket..... and keeping Peter Mendham in the hall of fame after he stabbed his partner in the kidney with a kitchen knife. Contradictory also?
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Bethnal Yellow and Green
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Peter Mendham shouldn't be in there either.
skijumptoes
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Sorry, i was making the point that for me personally he will die by what he said in front of his players, and how he treated those different to himself, not judging him on private texts, i just think that's unfair. We all have dirty laundry to air, whether that's internet history, illegal pirating of copyrighted material, chat logs, speeding, drink driving, mobile phone logs etc.. No-one's clean in the eyes of the law, and if you want to dig you'll find something to hang someone with.
If they didn't find racist comments they would've defaulted to something else to smear him with, the company contracted to do this work are paid well to do such a thing, and released out at the most damaging time. They've basically used racism as a weapon for their personal battle with him - That in itself is ridiculing the good work that anti-race campaigns do, they're just treating the subject of race as a card to be played. I find that far more disturbing than a few private messages.
Anyway, that aside - In that regard of how he reacted in person to people he met is purely paper talk for me right now, if more players come forward then that's the point where i will lose all respect for him.
What he's said on a private text, honestly, doesn't shock or offend me. It's stupid, but it happens and there's no intent to cause offence or harm on that alone.
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Canaryboy
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Andy Marshall shouldn't either, the scummy judas w*nker :lol:
lyb
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The club doesn't pretend those fans never went to any games before they were banned though.
Jimmy smith
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Aren't the bans for life usually for more direct forms of racism, like actually hurling abuse at players rather than for a text sent to a mate? Not saying it's acceptable, but there are definitely different levels of racism. As the person above says, look at Stan Collymore, he's shown remorse for what he did and still bears the brunt, hopefully Malky will be remorseful and clarify that he's not a racist, just an idiot for what he's put.
It's unprofessional so he should suffer with his managerial career yes, but I don't think he's actually evil or even racist in opinion. Go to most areas and people will use derogatory terms without meaning them in a harsh way. It's about teaching people what is right rather than ostracizing them for a little slip up.
I can't defend the allegations his former youth player with Somali roots had made though if they are true. Direct racism takes a whole new level.
Jimmy smith
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That's a bit ironic saying that isn't it.It probably won't completely destroy his career. This won't hurt his prospects in Eastern Europe or Russia and the Jewish dig will probably get him to the top of a lot of shortlists in the Middle East.
Canaryboy
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Skijumptoes makes a fair enough point, and one which I agree with. The accusations from the player should be taken far more seriously than texts which were not intended to be seen by somebody that they would knowingly offend or upset. If the FA investigation is done properly then they should be able to determine whether he is discriminatory or not by interviewing players and staff.
Canaryboy
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I saw a Cardiff fan earlier say "What did Tan expect, appointing a Scot and then moaning when he's racist" - with no hint of irony.
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lyb
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Racism in Eastern Europe and Russia is rife, highlighted every time any of our teams with black players in them play there by the widespread abysmal behaviour of the crowds there that go unchecked by the domestic authorities. Similarly, widespread anti-semitic sentiments in the Middle East are no great secret. So the comment itself is ironic and was intended as such, but it is not ironic that I've made the comment.
BarclayBoy88
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Move on from our own? If he is guilty of what he is accused of then why would we not want to distant ourselves from him.
lyb
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Like I said, it's rewriting history for the sake of political expedience, and I've never liked that sort of thing. It's a bit disturbing that so many people think it's right and proper to do so.