The Great Mass Debater
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Fee now being reported on the Pinkun as being closer to 2m. Does this make us a bit happier? Still not pleased he's going and still think he's worth more than that, but its better than 1m
BarclayBoy88
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£2 million for a player in the last year of his contract, who doesn't seem all that happy and who is often injured and unavailable for selection. I'd certaionly take that.
Canaryboy
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According to the Pinkun:
"Reports of a £1m switch, however, are wide of the mark with the final figure set to be in the region of £2m for the 26-year-old who has one year left on his current Carrow Road deal"
No idea whether to take that seriously or not.
"Reports of a £1m switch, however, are wide of the mark with the final figure set to be in the region of £2m for the 26-year-old who has one year left on his current Carrow Road deal"
No idea whether to take that seriously or not.
Canaryboy
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LOL, got beaten to it.
yellowarmy
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Very good deal for us if that is true
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mollie windley
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i think pilks is a fading star
time will tell how much he plays for cardiff,but injury prone and with a bad attitude,take the money !
time will tell how much he plays for cardiff,but injury prone and with a bad attitude,take the money !
The Great Mass Debater
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Are we happy with 2m though? Proven Premier League performer, top-scoring Englishman from midfield (before he decided he was Irish) in his debut season. We paid close to 3m for him when he was returning from a serious injury and had never performed above League One level. This still sounds like a poor deal to me
admin
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I think we should be happy with £2m for a player who is rumoured to have failed a medical at both Swansea and Liverpool. The Swansea fee in January was said to be £3m, if the rumours of a failed medical are true - we just have to face up to the fact that whilst he has a lot of talent he is a crock. People don't spend big money on injury prone players.
We wouldn't have got Leroy Fer for £4.8m if other teams didn't have concerns over the condition of his knee, and we will probably spin a profit on Fer when he leaves - so you win some you lose some.
We wouldn't have got Leroy Fer for £4.8m if other teams didn't have concerns over the condition of his knee, and we will probably spin a profit on Fer when he leaves - so you win some you lose some.
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CanaryNath
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If the fee is indeed closer to £2m than £1m, then I'd suggest it's not a bad move by our board.
Again, it frees up wages and adds funds to the transfer kitty.
Not too unhappy about this, to be honest.
Again, it frees up wages and adds funds to the transfer kitty.
Not too unhappy about this, to be honest.
Canaryboy
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The BBC reported at 12.31pm that Pilkington was set to have a medical this afternoon, if that is the case then the deal wasn't completed yesterday - remains possible that the deal could fall through?
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IP14canary
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Disappointed he's gone but more so with the fee,it always seems we give our players away .
Beauseant
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I'd be interested in the facts on which you base that comment. £8m for Snodgrass with a year left on his contract and somewhere very close to that for RvW after his disastrous season doesn't suggest a great degree of benevolence to me. If we also get £2m for a player who's done sod all for two seasons I think that would be pretty good business too.
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Yellow Fever
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For me, this is dismal news after a disappointing performance at Wolves. If by some miracle we did gain promotion, just how many PL quality players would we have available? Not many, is my expectation now.
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morty
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Would you still describe Pilkington as "Premier league quality" though, based on his performances last season? Both in quality and frequency?
Yellow Fever
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You have a point, Morty, but we have yet to see if Grabban and Lafferty can produce the required goals and there seems to be doubt whether Hooper, Redmond and Fer will be here by the end of the window. That doesn't fill me with optimism (and I'm an optimist by nature).
morty
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Its a shame, because his first season in the Premiership was amazing, but since then he just hasn't cut it, and has obviously shown nothing to make Neil Adams think he's suddenly going to regain that form. Really I think if you step back from this deal and analyse it logically, its pretty good for both parties. And if you take the case of Hoolahan, it shows that if Adams considers a want away player to be part of his plans, he has the man management skills to pull him back from the brink, if he wants to.
Yes, I think everything will be viewed with a bit more perspective at the end of the window, and I really think we could do with a signing about now!
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Beauseant
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There's an interesting view of the Pilkington situation here. If their info is correct (and I've heard a very similar story from a completely different source) it suggests that the club are doing the right thing.
http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2014/08/14/a-pilks-departure-has-been-inevitable-for-some-time-with-solskjaers-cardiff-taking-the-gamble/#ncfc
http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2014/08/14/a-pilks-departure-has-been-inevitable-for-some-time-with-solskjaers-cardiff-taking-the-gamble/#ncfc
Branston Pickle
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It really does seem a no brainer, I can see something in the arguments about keeping him, but what is really the point keeping a guy who wants out, has been poor in recent months and whose transfer fee diminishes with every passing day?
It is also interesting to see the asking price for Fer being 8 figures - if we got anything approaching that it would be amazing business considering the £4.5m we paid, but as ever it does rather depend how the money is invested: could we get a 'statement' type of signing, akin to Hucks? No idea who that could be, but it would do wonders for morale among supporters.
It is also interesting to see the asking price for Fer being 8 figures - if we got anything approaching that it would be amazing business considering the £4.5m we paid, but as ever it does rather depend how the money is invested: could we get a 'statement' type of signing, akin to Hucks? No idea who that could be, but it would do wonders for morale among supporters.
skijumptoes
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Poorly managed = poor performance, that's the bottom line.
People doubting his quality, will unfortunately, have it thrusted in their faces when he's turning in top performances for Cardiff. His injury record, statistically, is not as bad as everyone seems to think, motivation has a large factor on injury, or rather availability.
And when that happens it will be hard to dispute that we've made a big mistake here, he's a rare commodity for me. At least in the shops that we visit.
I just can't believe that some people can't see there's a link with so many top performing players prior to Hughtons appointment to them descending into utter carp, leading to complete exclusion.
We're talking a quality player here who was fit for Sundays game, yet we turned away the chance to even put him on the bench, and he's clearly demoralised by it. Someone please explain to me why he wouldn't want to be playing for us?!!
Sat season We ended up with a squad who were happy to say yes to being played out of position and underperforming. Those who had the passion to question it or show displeasure (Wes, Holt, Pilkington, Becchio etc) had the blade firmly set in place on their necks.
Only one player exists from that bunch, and he's arguably the most awkward to fit in to the squad, AND has a tendency to give the ball away. So it makes no sense that he's had preferential treatment since Adams arrived.
People doubting his quality, will unfortunately, have it thrusted in their faces when he's turning in top performances for Cardiff. His injury record, statistically, is not as bad as everyone seems to think, motivation has a large factor on injury, or rather availability.
And when that happens it will be hard to dispute that we've made a big mistake here, he's a rare commodity for me. At least in the shops that we visit.
I just can't believe that some people can't see there's a link with so many top performing players prior to Hughtons appointment to them descending into utter carp, leading to complete exclusion.
We're talking a quality player here who was fit for Sundays game, yet we turned away the chance to even put him on the bench, and he's clearly demoralised by it. Someone please explain to me why he wouldn't want to be playing for us?!!
Sat season We ended up with a squad who were happy to say yes to being played out of position and underperforming. Those who had the passion to question it or show displeasure (Wes, Holt, Pilkington, Becchio etc) had the blade firmly set in place on their necks.
Only one player exists from that bunch, and he's arguably the most awkward to fit in to the squad, AND has a tendency to give the ball away. So it makes no sense that he's had preferential treatment since Adams arrived.
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morty
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Kinda sounds like you are trying to blame Hughton here? And Adams as well? So you think its okay for a player to show his displeasure at the management by turning in poor performances deliberately?
You could always look at it from another point of view in that Pilkington had already expressed that he wanted to leave, so why would Adams pick him in that case? Perhaps Pilkington was demoralised because he wanted an opportunity to "shop window" himself, and Adams wasn't interested?
I suspect that every player was told they had a clean slate when Adams took over, what they did after that was up to them. No one player is bigger than the team.