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[derehamyella]

http://www.canaries.co.uk/news/article/norwich-city-wembley-wall-2491879.aspx

1000 spaces only at £99 a pop  

I honestly do not know what to make of it ...

 

[dj161]

I just saw this too, thought it looked ok until I saw the price £99!! if it was like £20 i'd of probably gone for it but at £99 a go it's clearly just a money making scheme, not like the club needs the money either with the amount of money set to come into the club in the next 12 months

 

[Boyerboy]

I take you guys don't go to formal dinners much. No reason you should of course but the price is wholly unremarkable for an event of this kind.

 

[morty]

Sorry, wouldn't pay £50 last time they did this, so definitely not paying £99 this time round!

 

[SussexYellow]

I have no problem with the club trying to make money. It all helps to give us the best chance of success even if only in a small way, and this will be a small way compared to other income streams.

£99 for the dinner, no problems that should sell.

But £99 for a brick? Not so sure. It is a very specific audience, almost exclusively those who were there. If the average party size at Wembley was say 2, then they need to sell to one in every 20 of those to sell out. Take out those that just can not afford it and this drops further. Then of those who can afford it many will not want to buy it. This will not be everybody's cup of tea!

If it sells poorly it will be a visual embarrassment, hard to rectify by adjusting the price without irking those who have paid full price. So I hope they have judged their market well and there are enough who will see this as a great memento, birthday or Xmas present.

 

[Canaryboy]

I take you guys don't go to formal dinners much. No reason you should of course but the price is wholly unremarkable for an event of this kind.

Doesn't say anything about dinner? Are you getting confused with a different offer? 

 

[Canaryboy]

Sorry but I think its utterly cringe-worthy to have a permanent feature celebrating a 4th place league finish in the second tier. 

A complete sell out for the sake of £99,000 (and that's not even profit)..... who are we now to take the p*ss out of Ipswich for having stars above their badge for stuff they won four decades ago, when we're going to be stuck with that monstrosity.

I feel very strongly about this, its tinpot. 

 

[morty]

Sorry but I think its utterly cringe-worthy to have a permanent feature celebrating a 4th place league finish in the second tier. 

A complete sell out for the sake of £99,000 (and that's not even profit)..... who are we now to take the p*ss out of Ipswich for having stars above their badge for stuff they won four decades ago, when we're going to be stuck with that monstrosity.

I feel very strongly about this, its tinpot. 

*3rd place

Kind of agree. It was okay doing it to commemorate the building of the new stand, but yeah, this is a bit cringey.

 

[Boyerboy]

Apologies!

Confused this with the £99 premium tickets for the pre season dinner also announced yesterday. I should have checked the thing through.

On bricks, not something I would want to do but it will appeal to some. Whilst objectively, it is a bit naff, Wembley was for us all a hugely significant and memorable event so a small memorial will appeal to some. I've ordered the book and will get the dvd but I think those together with the foot high edp "special issues" will do. The point is, none of us will forget the day until death or Alzheimer's so how many reminders do we need?

 

[CanaryNath]

Sorry but I think its utterly cringe-worthy to have a permanent feature celebrating a 4th place league finish in the second tier.

A complete sell out for the sake of £99,000 (and that's not even profit)..... who are we now to take the p*ss out of Ipswich for having stars above their badge for stuff they won four decades ago, when we're going to be stuck with that monstrosity.

I feel very strongly about this, its tinpot.

I couldn't agree more. Utterly embarrassing decision.

 

[SussexYellow]

Well it looks as though it is no one's cup of tea - at least on here. Possibly a few hard views, a win at Wembley is special whatever the circumstances. But it looks as though there is a consensus that this may prove to be misjudged.

It will appeal to some, but I can see "a brick" turning up as prizes in raffles, maybe as a second prize in the academy draw etc.

 

[Boyerboy]

Thinking on, I'm not sure I get this treatment of money making as a pejorative term.

Of course City is engaged in money making. It is a business. It would be like criticising Tesco for adding an additional service in its shops such as a photographer on the grounds that it is money making. Whether we approve of a particular venture is a matter of personal taste and ethics but I don't understand why trying to raise revenue is in itself something' to disapprove of.

I don't have strong opinions on this wall. There are far more tackier things in the club shop. What all these things share is firstly, a desire to raise revenue for the club and secondly, they are optional.

No one forces us to buy anything so what is the problem? I don't want a brick on this wall any more or less than I want a yellow and green wig but if the club offer them both for sale and others buy them why is that wrong? Why is that anyone's business except the buyer's in the end ?

 

[morty]

Thinking on, I'm not sure I get this treatment of money making as a pejorative term.

Of course City is engaged in money making. It is a business. It would be like criticising Tesco for adding an additional service in its shops such as a photographer on the grounds that it is money making. Whether we approve of a particular venture is a matter of personal taste and ethics but I don't understand why trying to raise revenue is in itself something' to disapprove of.

I don't have strong opinions on this wall. There are far more tackier things in the club shop. What all these things share is firstly, a desire to raise revenue for the club and secondly, they are optional.

No one forces us to buy anything so what is the problem? I don't want a brick on this wall any more or less than I want a yellow and green wig but if the club offer them both for sale and others buy them why is that wrong? Why is that anyone's business except the buyer's in the end ?

You're entirely correct, it is a business and no one is twisting anyone's arm.

But it throws up very good points about whether or not you want a slick business, or a "little ole Norwich" community club.

We're not Man United, we're Norwich, and I think that they have got the balance of things a wee bit wrong in recent years.

The £19.99 DVD's, all four of them, the Wembley tracksuit jacket at £50, all on the back of being the most expensive tickets in the Championship, another season where the fans showed their loyalty in great numbers.

We're fans, not just customers.

 

[Wiz]

I got a brick for my son for £50 a few years ago, thought that price was OTT back then but this is silly, mind you, I didn't go. so I've got an excuse already!

 

[Suffolk Canary]

To be honest I'm not too bothered about the price for these kind of things, because we aren't forced to purchase any of it.  It's only when they start charging silly prices for the main items e.g. Season tickets, shirts etc. 

For all of our success on the pitch since McNally came in, it's a sad fact that he purely views Norwich City as a business which needs to make as much money as possible. This of course can be argued as a good thing, but getting charged 20 quid for a bloody DVD which probably cost like £2 to make is always going to happen with business-minded Chief Executives. Now we're in the PL, prices for anything and everything are only going to go up and up. But i suppose its better than being in the Championship for 14 years straight.. 

 

[Boyerboy]

I agree that it is a good debate to have. If we are to survive in the Prem then we do need financial nous.

We all despise the big clubs and their plastics whilst we enjoy the community feel of Norwich. That's why we support City not Arsenal. But, I remember the Doncaster days when this club was run like a village store. It was hearteningly nice and incredibly inefficient. Many fans saw the Lil Ol Norwich not merely as patronising but as a surrender.

There is a tension there which is probably unresolvable but echoes what will happen on the pitch. We cannot face Arsenal as equals on the pitch and have to rely on Neil to find ways of playing which bridge the gap and give us a chance. Sometimes he will get it right. Others not.

McNally has the same challenge off the pitch and a similarly variable chance of success.

I guess what I want is for them both to try and I will forgive the failures because they can't always get it right and the only alternative is to give up and not try.

 

[SussexYellow]

You're entirely correct, it is a business and no one is twisting anyone's arm.

But it throws up very good points about whether or not you want a slick business, or a "little ole Norwich" community club.

We're not Man United, we're Norwich, and I think that they have got the balance of things a wee bit wrong in recent years.

The £19.99 DVD's, all four of them, the Wembley tracksuit jacket at £50, all on the back of being the most expensive tickets in the Championship, another season where the fans showed their loyalty in great numbers.

We're fans, not just customers.

Agree Morty.

I have no problem with the club doing all it can to make money. But where fans start getting excluded on the basis of price then I do have a problem. A balance does need to be struck. 

This is not a disposable consumable. It is something that will have appeal to the very soul of being a fan - to mark the occasion by becoming part of the fabric of Carrow Road, and it can not be right to exclude a potentially large portion  of our fanbase for this type of product.

I am starting to see this as an opportunity lost. At a reasonable price it would be an opportunity to further cement the bond between club and the fans. Which long term is worth a lot more than a few £££s over the coming months.

 

[morty]

To be honest I'm not too bothered about the price for these kind of things, because we aren't forced to purchase any of it.  It's only when they start charging silly prices for the main items e.g. Season tickets, shirts etc. 

For all of our success on the pitch since McNally came in, it's a sad fact that he purely views Norwich City as a business which needs to make as much money as possible. This of course can be argued as a good thing, but getting charged 20 quid for a bloody DVD which probably cost like £2 to make is always going to happen with business-minded Chief Executives. Now we're in the PL, prices for anything and everything are only going to go up and up. But i suppose its better than being in the Championship for 14 years straight.. 

People will just not pay it. If they had pitched those Wembley track suit tops at, say, £35 ( You can actually buy the top on a website, minus the badge, for £19.99) then I would have had one. But £50? Nah, too far I'm afraid. And without wanting to be crass about it, money isn't a huge object for me, but I won't pay those prices on principal.

 

[morty]

I agree that it is a good debate to have. If we are to survive in the Prem then we do need financial nous.

We all despise the big clubs and their plastics whilst we enjoy the community feel of Norwich. That's why we support City not Arsenal. But, I remember the Doncaster days when this club was run like a village store. It was hearteningly nice and incredibly inefficient. Many fans saw the Lil Ol Norwich not merely as patronising but as a surrender.

There is a tension there which is probably unresolvable but echoes what will happen on the pitch. We cannot face Arsenal as equals on the pitch and have to rely on Neil to find ways of playing which bridge the gap and give us a chance. Sometimes he will get it right. Others not.

McNally has the same challenge off the pitch and a similarly variable chance of success.

I guess what I want is for them both to try and I will forgive the failures because they can't always get it right and the only alternative is to give up and not try.

I think the club is incredibly well run now, and I fully agree with the streamlining of everything that McNally has carried out, but this seems a bit cynical. After building and labour costs, the club will make, I dunno, 50k? Is it really worth it?

 

[Fenway Frank]

People will just not pay it. If they had pitched those Wembley track suit tops at, say, £35 ( You can actually buy the top on a website, minus the badge, for £19.99) then I would have had one. But £50? Nah, too far I'm afraid. And without wanting to be crass about it, money isn't a huge object for me, but I won't pay those prices on principal.

Can you buy me one then , please ? oh, I might as well have all the DVDs while you're there